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DUNKIRK COMMITTEE
Meeting at held the at 11.a.m. on Wednesday, 4th September 1940
Ministry of Shipping, Room No. 8021A.
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AGENDA
1.
Minutes of Meeting held on 21st August 1940.
2.
Matters arising.
3. Report of Payments for fortnight ended 3rd September 1940.
4. Cases for discussion and settlement on the table:
1. Total Loss:-
"WESTERLEY"
R.A. Bonham Christie.
"SEA FALCON"
W.H.Elce.
"CLARA BELLE" A.Liddle.
"ANEE"
A.Liddle.
"GAVINE"
F.A.Cooper.
"PAPILLON"
S.Holmwood.
"SCENE SHIFTER" S.E.Longman.
"LETITIA"
W.E.Browning.
2. Repairs etc.
"BRYWYN"
C.Priestley Mist.
5.
Any other business.

DUNKIRK COMMITTEE.
Meeting held at at the Ministry 11.a.m. of on 1940
A G E N D A.
1) Minutes of Meeting held on 4th December, 1940.
2) Matters arising.
3) 4) Report of Payments for period ending 19th December, 1940.
Cases 1. for discussion and settlement on the table:-
TOTAL LOSS:
"Aljanor"
J. K. Mann.
"Santosy"
L. Odell.
"Gwen Eagle"
D.W. Hudson.
"Bonnibell"
C. Patey.
"Charlotte H"
Capt. the Hon. M.T. Henderson.
2 Lifeboats ex "Flandres:" Geo. Hammond & Co.
"Mary Spearing" Crouch & Son.
(U/W's agents)
11. LOST GEAR:
"Brywyn"
C.P.Mist.
5) Any other business.
TOTAL Loss:
14p. Dingry whate I haverton "Ramsget BoySesnts hangRaching
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Dunkirk Claims Committee
Meeting held at 11 a.m. on Friday 17th January, 1941
at the Ministry of Shipping, Room 5087.
Present:-
Mr. Allen (Chairman)
" Simmons
" Meredith
H Stokes
" Wand
1. Minutes of Meeting held on 20th December were agreed.
2. Matters arising were discussed:-
(a) "Lijns". Agreed to pay £45 in full and final settlement of all claims outstanding.
(b) "Brywyn". Agreed to pay £57.10.0 for all missing articles and expenses, plus hire at normal rates.
3. Report of payments for period ending 16th January, 1941, amounting to £2,459.18.7 was presented and passed.
4. Agreed that the Secretary shall negotiate with yacht and motor boat owners to settle Total Loss Compensation at the sums suggested by Mr. Barnett as "reasonable to offer,"
with a latitude of 10% increase if necessary.
5. The following cases were discussed:-
(a) "Magnet". Agreed to pay £15 as claimed.
(b) 10 Lifeboats ex British India S.N. Co. Agreed to pay £1,320 as claimed.
(c) 8 Lifeboats ex P. & O. S.N. Co. Agreed to refer back to P. & O. S.N. Co. as to amounts claimed.
(a) "Leilah" and "Rocinante". Agreed to enquire into the possibility of meeting claim from owner of "Leilah" by offering him "Rocinante".
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DUNKIRK COMMITTEE
Meeting held at 11 a.m. on Friday
20th December, 1940 at the Ministry of
Shipping, Room 5087.
Present: Mr. Allen (Chairman)
"
Simmons
"
Meredith
"
Stokes
"
Wand
1.
Minutes of Meeting held on 4th December were agreed.
2.
Matters arising were discussed:-
(a) "Madame Sansgene! Agreed to inform the owner that, as a result of a professional valuation, the department offers £1390
in settlement.
(b) "Lijns": Agreed to maintain the offer to settle at £10.
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3.
Report of Payments for period ending 19th December amounting to £1,462. 10. 7. was presented and passed.
4.
Agreed that in all future Total Loss cases of private
Yachts and Motor Boats to obtain a valuation before making an offer to the owner.
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5.
The following cases were discussed
Total Loss:
(a) "Aljanor": Agreed to inform owner that the
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offer of £2,500 will not be increased and that the offer will be withdrawn if not accepted within 14 days.
(b) "Gwen Eagle": Agreed to inform owner that the offer of £1750 will not be increased and that the offer will be withdrawn if not accepted within 14 days.
(c) "Santosy"
"Bonnibell"
Agreed to have these cases
"Charlotte H") sent for valuation.
(d) 2 Lifeboats ex. "Flandres": Agreed to offer
£80 each with discretion to increase to
£100 each.
(e) "Mary Spearing": Agreed to inform owners that the department will accept his written down value of £1,308 as a basis for settlement, plus incidentals.
(f) 25 ft. Montague Whaler) Agreed to settle at £30
14 ft. Dinghy and £10 respectively is claimed.
(g) "Lady Rosebury"
Agreed to accept the increased valuation of
£3,125 and to offer settlement accordingly.
Lost Gear:
"Brywyn": Agreed to increase offer of settlement for all missing articles and expenses to
£57 10 - O.
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DUNKIRK COMMITTEE.
Meeting held at 11.a.m. on Thursday 21st November, 1940.
at the Ministry of Shipping, Room 5087.
Present:
Mr. Allen
(Chairman)
If Simmons
11 Moore
"
Riddell
" Wand
1. Minutes of Meeting held on 6th November were agreed.
2. Matters arising were discussed:
(a) "Renown"
Agreed to put case back for valuation.
(b) "Sceneshifter"
Agreed to interview owner's solicitor.
(c) "Brywyn"
Agreed that owner should again be interviewed by representative of
P.C.O. (S.T.)
(a) "Moss Rose"
Agreed to obtain from Fisheries Officer full technical details of this and two other Deal boats "Britannia" and
"Golden Spray".
(e) "Madame Sansgene" Agreed to pay £1,000 on account pending confirmation of valuation.
(f) "New Prince of Wales" Agreed that P.C.O.(S.T.) should recommend a valuer.
3. Report of Payments for period ending 20th November amounting to
£1,970.8.7d was presented and passed.
4. The following cases were discussed:-
1. TOTAL LOSS:
(a) "Gwen Eagle"
Agreed to offer £1,750 in full and final settlement of all claims arising.
(b) "Peggy IV If
Agreed to offer £175 in full settlement.
(c) "Ma Joie"
Agreed to offer £250 in full settlement.
(a) "Aljanor"
Agreed to offer £2,500 which is the insured value and is the sum first claimed.
(e) "Doris"
Agreed to offer £35 each in full
"Edina"
settlement.
"Medora"
11. LOST CLOTHING:
"Lijns"
Agreed to maintain the attitude that the Department does not accept liability.
When
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DUNKIRK COMMITTEE.
Meeting held at 11.a.m. on Wednesday, 6th November, 1940
at the Ministry of Shipping, Room No. 8021A.
Present:
MR. ALLEN
(Chairman)
" SIMMONS
" MOORE
" RIDDELL
" WAND
1. Minutes of Meeting held on 23rd October were agreed.
2. Matters arising were discussed:
(a) "Renown" Agreed to inform owner that the Department will pay
£500 on account if desired while arrangements are made for a valuation.
(b) "Sceneshifter" Agreed to confirm verbal offer of £850.
(c) "Brywyn"
Agreed to wait reply to letter of 5.11.40 and generally to adopt the principle that owner must prove his claim.
(d) "Rosabelle"
Agreed to arrange for Mr. Wimpenny (Fisheries
Officer) to contact the owner and explain
Department's position and without committing
Department, unless it were apparent that claimant would accept, offer settlement of £100.
(e)
"Moss
Rose"
Agreed to ask Mr.Wimpenny to obtain a comparison of the Deal Boats lost.
(f) "Mare Nostrum" Agreed to inform owner that the Department is not satisfied that evidence has been produced to show that the articles covered by the claim were on board.
3. Report of payments for period ending 5th November amounting to
£4,074.7.2a was presented and passed.
4. The following cases were discussed:-
TOTAL LOSS:
(a) "Madame Sansgene" Agreed to refer papers to Mr. Barnett for a valuation in view of a possible relationship between claimant and builder;pointing this out and also that had the relationship not been apparent, Department would have paid as claimed in all probability.
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(b) "Sunshine"
Agreed to pay £203.10.0₫ as claimed.
(c) "Viking III"
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(a) "Southern Queen" " " pass to P.C.O. (S.T) to arrange
(for a valuer.
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(e)
"Pioneer" Agreed to pay £400 as claimed.
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(f) 16 ft Boat.
" " If £12 as claimed on
(completion of Letter of Abandonment.
(g) 10 ft. "Dinkey" Agreed to pay £12 as claimed on
(completion of Letter of Abandonment.
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(h) "New Prince of Wales" Agreed to offer insured value
(£5,000.
of fit Due
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DUNKIRK COMMITTEE.
Meeting held at 11.a.m. on Wednesday 23rd October, 1940 at the
Ministry of Shipping. Room No. 8021.A.
Present:
MR. ALLEN (Chairman)
" MOORE
"
RIDDELL
"
WAND
1. Minutes of Meeting held on 26th September were agreed.
2. Matters arising were discussed.
(a) "Sceneshifter" Agreed to refer the case to Mr. Barnett of
Watson & Co.Glasgow.
(b) "Brywyn"
Agreed to maintain committee's attitude unless owner produces evidence of loss or value.
(c) "Vanitee"
Agreed to offer £700 which is sum stated by owner on T619 to be acceptable.
(a) "Stonehaven"
Agreed to offer £500 in full settlement.
(e) "Bullpup"
Agreed to offer £450 - the insured value.
(f) "Rosabelle"
Agreed to offer £75 in full settlement.
3. Report of Payments for period ending 22nd October amounting to
£5,834.15.8d was presented and passed.
4. The following cases were discussed:-
(a) TOTAL LOSS:
"Thetis" Agreed to offer £225 in full settlement.
"Moss Rose" Agreed to make comparison with other Deal Boats
"Maid of Honour" Agreed to offer £425 (Tough's valuation)
( in full settlement.
"Minikoi" Agreed to require Letters of Administration in favour of the widow before opening negotiations.
"Princess Lily"
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Agreed to forward forms T619 and at the
"Court Belle II"
same time to offer, if required, advances on account of 2/3rds of insured values.
"Hanora"
Agreed to offer £565 in full settlement.
"Miranda"
Agreed to settle at owners claim of £20. 1
"Triton"
Agreed to settle at owners claim of £1,500
"Two Rivers"
Agreed to offer £370 in full settlement.
"Sarah & Emily"
Agreed to settle at owners claim of £30, if, after enquiry, boat had not returned.
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"Wolsey"
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Agreed to offer £250 which is sum stated by owner on T619 to be acceptable.
Barges (8)
hings
Agreed to negotiate settlements up to the valuation figures.
(b) Repairs & Replacements:
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"Mare Nostrum": Agreed to pay the repair bill as recommended on survey report, to refer to P.CO(S.T) for valuation of missing of articles and to take no action on expenses claim, until reasonably presented.
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"Kit Cat":
Agreed to settle claim at £12.
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MINUTE SHEET.
Reference
DUNKIRK COMMITTEE.
MEETING HELD AT 4 p.m. ON THURSDAY 26th SEPTEMBER, 1940 AT
THE MINISTRY OF SHIPPING, ROOM 8021 A.
PRESENT:-
Mr. Allen (Chairman)
" Simmons
"
Meredith
" Stokes
" Wand
1.
Minutes of Meeting held on 4th September were agreed.
2. Matters arising were discussed;
(a) "Renown"
Agreed as a first step to ask owner to complete form T.619. Later, if necessary, to refer to
PCO (S.T.) for nomination of a valuer.
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(b) "Westerley"
Agreed to maintain offer of £500, plus any out of pocket expenses incurred by owner.
(c) "Papillon"
Agreed to accept liability for total loss and to proceed accordingly.
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(d) "Scene
Agreed to prepare case for Tribunal under powers
Shifter"
of compensation (Defence) Act. 1939.
(e) "Brywyn"
Agreed to inform the owner that in view of the absence of evidence in support of his loss or of the value of articles said to be lost, he is offered £40 in settlement of his claim for missing articles.
3. Report of payments for period ending 25th September, amounting to £3003,12...6. was presented and passed.
4. The following cases were discussed:-
(a) TOTAL LOSS
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"Golden Spray" Agreed to offer £265 in full settlement of all claims, and, on acceptance, to have letter of
Abandonment drawn up in the name of
"Golden Spray" ex "Bonnie Boy 11"
"Vanitee"
Agreed to call for evidence of purchase price
(700) and later to negotiate settlement up to a maximum of £700.
"Stonehaven"
Agreed to offer £475 to include extra furnishings and fittings.
OK
"Roberta"
Agreed to settle for value of vessel at £850
plus the recommendations of PCO (ST) for fittings.
"Bull Pup"
Agreed to defer action pending examination of the case by PCO (ST)
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(REGIMINT)
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DUNKIRK COMMITTEE.
MEETING HELD AT 11.am.ON WEDNESDAY 14th AUGUST.
1940. AT THE MINISTRY OF SHIPPING.ROOM 8021A.
PRESENT:
Mr.Allen.
(Chairman)
" Moore.
"
Riddell.
" Wand.
1.
Minutes of Meeting held on 7th August were agreed.
2.
Matters arising were discussed:
(a) "IOTE":
Agreed to a final offer of £1,500 in full settlement.
(a) "BEVERLEY": Agreed, that in view of the fact that the joint owners are acting independently of each other they should be informed that it is proposed to take no further action in the case until they appoint one person to have full powers to negotiate with the department on their joint behalf.
3.
Report of payments for week ended 13th August, amounting to £256. 18. 1., was presented and passed.
4.
The following cases were discussed:-
1. TOTAL LOSS.
(a)
"ALBATROSS": Agreed to make a first and final offer of £225 in full settlement.
(b)
"ALOHA-OE":
Agreed to offer £250 in full settlement.
11. REPAIRS.
(a) "BRYWYN"
Agreed as a first step that P.C.O.(S.T.)
should arrange to meet owner and discuss repairs, and items of alleged lost gear.
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