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TNA MT 40 36 Pt 2

TNA MT 40 36 Pt 2
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TNA MT 40 36 Pt 2

A second digitised section of MT 40/36: Ministry of Transport papers on the Dynamo small-craft pool, special-service planning and claims procedure.

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Source: The National Archives, Kew, MT 40/36 Pt 2. Contains public sector information licensed under the Open Government Licence v3.0.

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COM.
DUNKIRK
Meeting held a. m. at the
A G E N D A.
1. 2. 3. Minutes Matters Report of arising. of Meeting held on 26th September 1940.
said to OH
4. Cases 1. for TOTAL Payments discussion for and period ending 22nd October 1940.
"Thetis" LOSS:- settlement on the table
-
"Moss Rose"
-
H.F. Eaton.
"Maid of Honour"
-
T. Adams
"Minikoi"
-
H. Sands
"Princess Lily"
-
"Court Belle II"
- - }
Capt. W.S. Shelford.
"Hanora"
"Miranda"
-
C. Whatford & Son.
SAILING BARGES:
-
C.E. Thompson
W.H, Goldsmith
"Lady Rosebery"
"Duchess"
-
-
"Barbara "Aidie" Jean"
Samuel West Ltd.
"Doris"
- - - }
Wakeley Bros. & Co.Ltd.
"Ethel Eyerard" "
R & W. Paul Ltd.
" Lark "
- - 3
11.
-
LOST EFFECTS:-
F.T. T. Everard & Sons.Ltd.
"Kit-Cat"
Scholey & Co.Ltd.
5.
-
III.
Any other business.
J. Swain.
Totathos:-
two Rives
20 bills
Sarah timely
7.E Bower bokey
.
d Toda
Repairs have hoston a halcolm
Be Killy

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OCR table 1 from document page 234
Name of Vessel File No. Action
BLACK ARROW BONNIBELL T.M.4060/40 Reminder sent
EMPRESS T.M.4101/40 L.A.awaited (Pafa).
EX SERVICE DINGHY T.M.3716/40 Await T.619 and Docs.
FAITH T.M.4771/40 Reminder sent
MIRASOL T.M.4070/40 Reminder sent
MONTAGUE WHALER T.M.4059/40 Offer of £360 made
MOSS ROSE T.M.4771/40 Reminder sent
NEW WHITE HEATHER T.0.4096/40 Committee
ST.PATRICK T.M.3899/40 Reminder sent
SHAMROCK T.0.9153/40 Reminder sent
SKYLARK III T.M.3898/40 Await inform for (Advance made valuer £250 to be)
SKYLARK III T.M.4795/40 Committee
(Corsan) T.0.9203/40 Reminder sent
SOUTHERN QUEEN HAZARD T.0.9271/40 T.M.3768/40 £465 latest offer
QUEEN OF ENGLAND T.M.3716/40 £200 offered
PAPILLION T.0.9571/40 Await T.619 etc.
KATE T.M.1514/41 x (Mortgage) Offer accepted
LEILAH T.M.4058/40 Committee
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held winis at
Dunkirk Claims Committee.
ruler (Tag)
the Ministry Meeting held of Shipping, at 11 a.m. Room on 5087. Friday 14th March 1941, at
Agenda.
Ne
1.
2. Minutes of Meeting held on 7th February, 1941.
Matters arising.
3.
Y
4.
Report of Payments for period ending 13th March, 1941.
Cases for discussion and settlement:-
I Total Loss.
"Grace "Kate" Darling IV"
C.E. Gundy
"Maldon Annie"
E.J. Morris
"Moss Rose"
Col. Lamont
"New Prince of Wales"
T. Adams
"Skylark II"
Southend Motor Navigation
"Skylark "Leilah" III"
Co. Ltd.
F.P. Collins
F.P. Collins
"Rocinante" "Enchantress"
L.R. Burnay
R.F. Fryars
HAZARA
Allchorn & Sons
DREADKOUGHT IIIIII
BOND'S BOATTARD
H. BROOKE S
II Missing Gear G. etc.
MURRELL
"Mare Nostrum"
B.C. Kirby
III Hire.
"Lord Fisher" L.T.711. Lowestoft Steam
Herring Drifters Co. Ltd.
5. Any other business.
There whatin by Harry.
Day this

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DUNKIRK CLAIMS COMMITTEE.
MEETING HELD AT 11 a.m. ON FRIDAY, 14TH
AT THE MINISTRY OF SHIPPING (ROOM 508
Present:
Mr. Moore.
11
Simmons
"
Riddell
It Chamberlin
"
Wand.
Mr. Moore took the Chair in the absence OZ
who was unable to attend.
1. Minutes of Meeting held on 7th February W
2. Matters arising were discussed:-
(a) "Madame Sans Gene: Agreed to negotiat and £1,700.
(b) "Southern Queen":
Agreed to settleme this vessel plus and hire at appro
(c) "Ferry Nymph":
Offer of £15 for h
(a) "Nemo IV":
Agreed to endorse since last meetin
(e) Belgian Trawler
"Jacomina"
Decided that this the Committee.
3. Report of Payments for period ending 13th amounting to £1,416. 11. 8. was presented and
4. The following cases were discussed:-
(a) "Grace Darling IV" Agreed to increase
£735 plus interes
(b) "Kate":
Agreed to offer £32
(c) "Maldon Annie":
Agreed to settle at interest.
(d) "Moss Rose":
Agreed to offer £37
(e) "New Prince of
Wales":
Agreed to defer fin formula of values passenger boats is the meantime offer advance of £2,000
(f) "Skylark II & III": Agreed to negotiate settlement for the between £900 and £

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DUNKIRK COMMITTEE.
Meeting held at 11.a.m. on Thursday 21st November, 1940.
at the Ministry of Shipping, Room 5087.
Present:
Mr. Allen
(Chairman)
If Simmons
11 Moore
"
Riddell
" Wand
1. Minutes of Meeting held on 6th November were agreed.
2. Matters arising were discussed:
(a) "Renown"
Agreed to put case back for valuation.
(b) "Sceneshifter"
Agreed to interview owner's solicitor.
(c) "Brywyn"
Agreed that owner should again be interviewed by representative of
P.C.O. (S.T.)
(a) "Moss Rose"
Agreed to obtain from Fisheries Officer full technical details of this and two other Deal boats "Britannia" and
"Golden Spray".
(e) "Madame Sansgene" Agreed to pay £1,000 on account pending confirmation of valuation.
(f) "New Prince of Wales" Agreed that P.C.O.(S.T.) should recommend a valuer.
3. Report of Payments for period ending 20th November amounting to
£1,970.8.7d was presented and passed.
4. The following cases were discussed:-
1. TOTAL LOSS:
(a) "Gwen Eagle"
Agreed to offer £1,750 in full and final settlement of all claims arising.
(b) "Peggy IV If
Agreed to offer £175 in full settlement.
(c) "Ma Joie"
Agreed to offer £250 in full settlement.
(a) "Aljanor"
Agreed to offer £2,500 which is the insured value and is the sum first claimed.
(e) "Doris"
Agreed to offer £35 each in full
"Edina"
settlement.
"Medora"
11. LOST CLOTHING:
"Lijns"
Agreed to maintain the attitude that the Department does not accept liability.
When
4/12/60

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DUNKIRK COMMITTEE.
Meeting held at 11.a.m. on Wednesday, 6th November, 1940
at the Ministry of Shipping, Room No. 8021A.
Present:
MR. ALLEN
(Chairman)
" SIMMONS
" MOORE
" RIDDELL
" WAND
1. Minutes of Meeting held on 23rd October were agreed.
2. Matters arising were discussed:
(a) "Renown" Agreed to inform owner that the Department will pay
£500 on account if desired while arrangements are made for a valuation.
(b) "Sceneshifter" Agreed to confirm verbal offer of £850.
(c) "Brywyn"
Agreed to wait reply to letter of 5.11.40 and generally to adopt the principle that owner must prove his claim.
(d) "Rosabelle"
Agreed to arrange for Mr. Wimpenny (Fisheries
Officer) to contact the owner and explain
Department's position and without committing
Department, unless it were apparent that claimant would accept, offer settlement of £100.
(e)
"Moss
Rose"
Agreed to ask Mr.Wimpenny to obtain a comparison of the Deal Boats lost.
(f) "Mare Nostrum" Agreed to inform owner that the Department is not satisfied that evidence has been produced to show that the articles covered by the claim were on board.
3. Report of payments for period ending 5th November amounting to
£4,074.7.2a was presented and passed.
4. The following cases were discussed:-
TOTAL LOSS:
(a) "Madame Sansgene" Agreed to refer papers to Mr. Barnett for a valuation in view of a possible relationship between claimant and builder;pointing this out and also that had the relationship not been apparent, Department would have paid as claimed in all probability.
1
(b) "Sunshine"
Agreed to pay £203.10.0₫ as claimed.
(c) "Viking III"
"
"
"
£12
It
"
(a) "Southern Queen" " " pass to P.C.O. (S.T) to arrange
(for a valuer.
,
(e)
"Pioneer" Agreed to pay £400 as claimed.
D
(f) 16 ft Boat.
" " If £12 as claimed on
(completion of Letter of Abandonment.
(g) 10 ft. "Dinkey" Agreed to pay £12 as claimed on
(completion of Letter of Abandonment.
)
(h) "New Prince of Wales" Agreed to offer insured value
(£5,000.
of fit Due
11
21/11/40

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DUNKIRK COMMITTEE.
Meeting held at 11.a.m. on Wednesday 23rd October, 1940 at the
Ministry of Shipping. Room No. 8021.A.
Present:
MR. ALLEN (Chairman)
" MOORE
"
RIDDELL
"
WAND
1. Minutes of Meeting held on 26th September were agreed.
2. Matters arising were discussed.
(a) "Sceneshifter" Agreed to refer the case to Mr. Barnett of
Watson & Co.Glasgow.
(b) "Brywyn"
Agreed to maintain committee's attitude unless owner produces evidence of loss or value.
(c) "Vanitee"
Agreed to offer £700 which is sum stated by owner on T619 to be acceptable.
(a) "Stonehaven"
Agreed to offer £500 in full settlement.
(e) "Bullpup"
Agreed to offer £450 - the insured value.
(f) "Rosabelle"
Agreed to offer £75 in full settlement.
3. Report of Payments for period ending 22nd October amounting to
£5,834.15.8d was presented and passed.
4. The following cases were discussed:-
(a) TOTAL LOSS:
"Thetis" Agreed to offer £225 in full settlement.
"Moss Rose" Agreed to make comparison with other Deal Boats
"Maid of Honour" Agreed to offer £425 (Tough's valuation)
( in full settlement.
"Minikoi" Agreed to require Letters of Administration in favour of the widow before opening negotiations.
"Princess Lily"
}
Agreed to forward forms T619 and at the
"Court Belle II"
same time to offer, if required, advances on account of 2/3rds of insured values.
"Hanora"
Agreed to offer £565 in full settlement.
"Miranda"
Agreed to settle at owners claim of £20. 1
"Triton"
Agreed to settle at owners claim of £1,500
"Two Rivers"
Agreed to offer £370 in full settlement.
"Sarah & Emily"
Agreed to settle at owners claim of £30, if, after enquiry, boat had not returned.
à
"Wolsey"
0 2
Agreed to offer £250 which is sum stated by owner on T619 to be acceptable.
Barges (8)
hings
Agreed to negotiate settlements up to the valuation figures.
(b) Repairs & Replacements:
)
"Mare Nostrum": Agreed to pay the repair bill as recommended on survey report, to refer to P.CO(S.T) for valuation of missing of articles and to take no action on expenses claim, until reasonably presented.
lle"
"Kit Cat":
Agreed to settle claim at £12.
6/11/40

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OCR table 1 from document page 314
VESSEL Type Claimant Paper No Hire & Exs. Repairs & Replacements Total Loss
£. S. D. S. £. D. - £, S. D.
MAGNET M.B. W.M.Melmore T.M.3793/40 6 - - - 20
MAID OF HONOUR M.V. Tough Bros. H.Sands T.0.9177/40 3 3 - 425 - - 250
MA JOIE P.Newall Petticrow Mrs.L. Clarbour T.0.9208/40 13 16 4 - -
MAJOR M.V. G.K. Cann T.M.3740/40 1 12 8 1,000
MALDON ANNIE M.V. Col.Lamont T.O.9208/40 13 1 4 - -
W.Stewart 10 - - 14 -
MALVINA M.F.B. R.E.Cooper T.M.4185/40 11 - 7 2 10 -
MARE NOSTRUM M.V. B.C.Kirby T.M.3739/40 60 - - 122
MARCHIONESS M.V. J.Mears Ltd. T.M.3719/40 See under "JEFF" 465
MARGHERITA M.V. " = T.M.7364/40 8 1 3 - -
MARINA M.B. A.Jacobs T.M.3769/40 3 17 1
MARINA M.B. J.T.Phelps T.M.4141/40 See under "LEANDER"
MARY ROSE M.Y. O.Dives T.0.9145/40 3 15 - 715 - -
MARY SPEARING M.V. W.G.S.Crouch & Sons T.M.4088/40 15 18 9 1,308 - -
MARY SPEARING
II M.V. " " " " 16 10 - 33 9 -
MATILDA Chelsea Yacht & Boat Co. T.M.4057/40 8 24 - 18 - 7 83 19 9 2
MEANDER M.V. H.Graham J.Taylor & Bates Ltd. H.Graham T.M.4061/40 25 18 11 10 7 - 20 - 85 10 -
MIGRANT M.B. David Hillyard T.M.4104/40 8 4 4
MILLICENT D
LEACH M.V. H.Leach T.0.9611/40 8 18 - 12 - 6
MIMI M.V. Anglo.Amer.011 Co.Ltd. T.M.4068/40 12 6
MINIKOI M.L. Capt. Shelford T.0.9140/40 341 - -
MINORU II M.V. J.W.Cottrell T.0.9325/40 6 5 4
MINX M.F.B. R.A.Newman & Sons T.0.9333/40 7 8 6
MIRASOL M.V. R.C.Kyle T.M.4059/40 14 18 4 400 - -
MISS MADGE M.V. S.W.Richardson T.M.3750/40 84 12 5
MONARCH S.B, F & G Baker T.M.3904/40 5 10 - 44 - -
MOSS ROSE M.V. T.Adams T.M.4096/40 375 - -
MOUSME M.Y. C.D.Barber T.M.3929/40 4 7 6 46 6 6
MUTT M.V. J. Mears Ltd. T.M. 3719/40 See under "JEFF"
MURIUS M.V. Vectis Ship Co.Ltd. T.M.6799/40 25 4 2 9 17 6
MAGNET Row Bt. A.Hall T.M.191/41 15 - -
MAY QUEEN S.M. T.M.4384/40 12 8 3
270 F.Leach 12 19 2 5 - -
MAYFLOWER PZ51 R.Worth T.M.5740/40 8 2 -
MONTAGUE Broadstairs & TM/4771/40 - 30 -
WHALER 25' Ramsgate Boy
Scout's Assn.
MOLLY M.F.B. E.Thomas " " TM/6463/40 3 24 4 - - -
G.K. Cann 3 12 11
MERLIN M.V. F.S.Clarabut T.M.5440/40 8 - -
MINNEDOSA Bge. E.F.White & A.J.Riding T.M.5504/40 40 - - 53 - -
MADAME ) SANSGENE) M.B Mrs. E. Shelley T.0.9665/40 16 9 9 - 1,700 -
M.F.H. M.V. Pickfords Ltd. T.M.4368/40 92 7 3 57 -
MEDORA Wherry T.H.Read T.M.4767/40 6 9 35 - -
MIRANDA No.58 W.H.Goldsmith T.M.4775/40 - 20
MIZPAH M.F.B. J.Ovett T.M.5175/40 10 11 - 6
MAID MARION M.B. A.S.Belsher T.M.5231/40 8 - 1 5 -
MARY ELEIZER M.V. Sutton Harbour Impt.Co. T.M.6544/40 14 8
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Repairs and
Expenses and
Replacements
Vessel
Type
I
Claimant
1
Paper No.
I
£. S. d.
E. S. d.
VALUATIONS.
Various Barges in
W.N.Sparks & Son.
AG.20,053/40
53. 6. 6. 8. 8.
"
13
F.J.Talbot.
"
"
"
"
C.Howie.
53. 6. 8.
Passenger Pleasure
Boats
10
Frederick Shepherd.
AG.20,044/40
42.
"MOSS ROSE"
&
we
W.H.Harvey.
AG.20,043/40
9. 5.11.
"RENOWN"
Various
Payments made locally by Officers of the
Ministry of
Agriculture and
AG./3/3486/40
mm
5,811. 1. 3.
Fisheries,
730. 8. 6.
$14,614.12. 3.
8