TNA MT 40 36 Pt 2

DUNKIRK COMMITTEE.
Meeting Ministry held of at 11 a.m. on Wednesday, 6th November, 1940 at the
Shipping in Room No. 8021a.
AGENDA
1. Minutes of Meeting held on 23rd October, 1940.
2. Matters Arising.
3. 4. Report of Payments for period ending 5th November, 1940.
Cases for discussion and settlement on the table:-
1. TOTAL LOSS
"MADAME SANSGENE"
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E. Shelley,
"SUNSHINE"
-
A.J. Verrion.
"VIKING III =
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J.S.Houlton.
"SOUTHERN QUEEN"
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C.H.Harvey.
"PIONEER"
-
Ricketts Bros.
16ft. Boat
-
W.Robertson.
10ft.Boat "DINKEY" -
H.H. Miramo.
"NEW PRINCE OF WALES" -
Southend Motor Navigation
5. Any other business.
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2. Minutes of Meeting held on 7th February, 1941.
Matters arising.
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Report of Payments for period ending 13th March, 1941.
Cases for discussion and settlement:-
I Total Loss.
"Grace "Kate" Darling IV"
C.E. Gundy
"Maldon Annie"
E.J. Morris
"Moss Rose"
Col. Lamont
"New Prince of Wales"
T. Adams
"Skylark II"
Southend Motor Navigation
"Skylark "Leilah" III"
Co. Ltd.
F.P. Collins
F.P. Collins
"Rocinante" "Enchantress"
L.R. Burnay
R.F. Fryars
HAZARA
Allchorn & Sons
DREADKOUGHT IIIIII
BOND'S BOATTARD
H. BROOKE S
II Missing Gear G. etc.
MURRELL
"Mare Nostrum"
B.C. Kirby
III Hire.
"Lord Fisher" L.T.711. Lowestoft Steam
Herring Drifters Co. Ltd.
5. Any other business.
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DUNKIRK CLAIMS COMMITTEE.
MEETING HELD AT 11 a.m. ON FRIDAY, 14TH
AT THE MINISTRY OF SHIPPING (ROOM 508
Present:
Mr. Moore.
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Simmons
"
Riddell
It Chamberlin
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Wand.
Mr. Moore took the Chair in the absence OZ
who was unable to attend.
1. Minutes of Meeting held on 7th February W
2. Matters arising were discussed:-
(a) "Madame Sans Gene: Agreed to negotiat and £1,700.
(b) "Southern Queen":
Agreed to settleme this vessel plus and hire at appro
(c) "Ferry Nymph":
Offer of £15 for h
(a) "Nemo IV":
Agreed to endorse since last meetin
(e) Belgian Trawler
"Jacomina"
Decided that this the Committee.
3. Report of Payments for period ending 13th amounting to £1,416. 11. 8. was presented and
4. The following cases were discussed:-
(a) "Grace Darling IV" Agreed to increase
£735 plus interes
(b) "Kate":
Agreed to offer £32
(c) "Maldon Annie":
Agreed to settle at interest.
(d) "Moss Rose":
Agreed to offer £37
(e) "New Prince of
Wales":
Agreed to defer fin formula of values passenger boats is the meantime offer advance of £2,000
(f) "Skylark II & III": Agreed to negotiate settlement for the between £900 and £

DUNKIRK COMMITTEE.
Meeting held at 11.a.m. on Wednesday 4th December, 1940, at the Ministry of Shipping, Room 5087.
Present:
Mr. Allen
(Chairman)
"
Simmons
" Moore
"
Riddell
"
Wand
1. Minutes of Meeting held on 21st November were agreed.
2. Matters arising were discussed:-
(a) "Renown" Arising from this case it was agreed to approach
Mr. Harvey of Sittingbourne with a view to his acting as valuer for Thames Estuary Bawley Boats and similar craft.
(b) "Madame Sansgene"
Agreed to withhold further action pending confirmation of the present system of valuation of yachts, motor launches, &c.
(c) "New Prince of Wales" Arising from this case it was agreed to approach Mr. Fredk. Shepherd of 199, Piccadilly with a view to his acting as valuer for
Small Passenger Service Craft.
(a) "Lijns"
Agreed to accept the owner's statement that the ladies clothing claimed for was on board, and, in view of the fact that it had been kept on board for 8 months before the vessel was requisitioned, to offer £10 in settlement.
3. Report of Payments for period ending 3rd December amounting to £4,160.9.8₫
was presented and passed.
4. The following cases were discussed:-
a
Total Loss:-
(a) "CYB"
Agreed to offer £400 with discretion to, increase to £450.
(b) "Handy Billy" Agreed to pay £213.18.6d as claimed.
(c) "Mirasol"
Agreed that the survey report produced by the owner is not alone to be accepted as basis of value.
(a) "Enterprise"
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Agreed to be dealt with as in 2 (c) above.
"Wave Queen"
(e) "Papillon"
Agreed that owner's claim on his
Affidavit should be subject to normal investigation.
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20/12/40

DUNKIRK COMMITTEE.
Meeting held at 11.a.m. on Wednesday 4th December, 1940, at the Ministry of Shipping, Room 5087.
Present:
Mr. Allen
(Chairman)
"
Simmons
"
Moore
"
Riddell
" Wand
1. Minutes of Meeting held on 21st November were agreed.
2. Matters arising were discussed:-
(a) "Renown" Arising from this case it was agreed to approach
Mr. Harvey of Sittingbourne with a view to his acting as valuer for Thames Estuary Bawley Boats and similar craft.
(b) "Madame Sansgene"
Agreed to withhold further action pending confirmation of the present system of valuation of yachts, motor launches, &c.
(c) "New Prince of Wales" Arising from this case it was agreed to approach Mr. Fredk. Shepherd of 199, Piccadilly with a view to his acting as valuer for
Small Passenger Service Craft.
(a) "Lijns"
Agreed to accept the owner's statement that the ladies clothing claimed for was on board, and, in view of the fact that it had been kept on board for 8 months before the vessel was requisitioned, to offer £10 in settlement.
3. Report of Payments for period ending 3rd December amounting to £4,160.9.8d was presented and passed.
4. The following cases were discussed:-
a
Total Loss:-
(a) "CYB"
Agreed to offer £400 with discretion to, increase to £450.
(b) "Handy Billy" Agreed to pay £213.18.6d as claimed.
(c) "Mirasol"
Agreed that the survey report produced by the owner is not alone to be accepted as basis of value.
(a) "Enterprise"
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Agreed to be dealt with as in 2 (c) above.
"Wave Queen"
(e) "Papillon"
Agreed that owner's claim on his
Affidavit should be subject to normal investigation.
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DUNKIRK COMMITTEE.
Meeting held at 11.a.m. on Thursday 21st November, 1940.
at the Ministry of Shipping, Room 5087.
Present:
Mr. Allen
(Chairman)
If Simmons
11 Moore
"
Riddell
" Wand
1. Minutes of Meeting held on 6th November were agreed.
2. Matters arising were discussed:
(a) "Renown"
Agreed to put case back for valuation.
(b) "Sceneshifter"
Agreed to interview owner's solicitor.
(c) "Brywyn"
Agreed that owner should again be interviewed by representative of
P.C.O. (S.T.)
(a) "Moss Rose"
Agreed to obtain from Fisheries Officer full technical details of this and two other Deal boats "Britannia" and
"Golden Spray".
(e) "Madame Sansgene" Agreed to pay £1,000 on account pending confirmation of valuation.
(f) "New Prince of Wales" Agreed that P.C.O.(S.T.) should recommend a valuer.
3. Report of Payments for period ending 20th November amounting to
£1,970.8.7d was presented and passed.
4. The following cases were discussed:-
1. TOTAL LOSS:
(a) "Gwen Eagle"
Agreed to offer £1,750 in full and final settlement of all claims arising.
(b) "Peggy IV If
Agreed to offer £175 in full settlement.
(c) "Ma Joie"
Agreed to offer £250 in full settlement.
(a) "Aljanor"
Agreed to offer £2,500 which is the insured value and is the sum first claimed.
(e) "Doris"
Agreed to offer £35 each in full
"Edina"
settlement.
"Medora"
11. LOST CLOTHING:
"Lijns"
Agreed to maintain the attitude that the Department does not accept liability.
When
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DUNKIRK COMMITTEE.
Meeting held at 11.a.m. on Wednesday, 6th November, 1940
at the Ministry of Shipping, Room No. 8021A.
Present:
MR. ALLEN
(Chairman)
" SIMMONS
" MOORE
" RIDDELL
" WAND
1. Minutes of Meeting held on 23rd October were agreed.
2. Matters arising were discussed:
(a) "Renown" Agreed to inform owner that the Department will pay
£500 on account if desired while arrangements are made for a valuation.
(b) "Sceneshifter" Agreed to confirm verbal offer of £850.
(c) "Brywyn"
Agreed to wait reply to letter of 5.11.40 and generally to adopt the principle that owner must prove his claim.
(d) "Rosabelle"
Agreed to arrange for Mr. Wimpenny (Fisheries
Officer) to contact the owner and explain
Department's position and without committing
Department, unless it were apparent that claimant would accept, offer settlement of £100.
(e)
"Moss
Rose"
Agreed to ask Mr.Wimpenny to obtain a comparison of the Deal Boats lost.
(f) "Mare Nostrum" Agreed to inform owner that the Department is not satisfied that evidence has been produced to show that the articles covered by the claim were on board.
3. Report of payments for period ending 5th November amounting to
£4,074.7.2a was presented and passed.
4. The following cases were discussed:-
TOTAL LOSS:
(a) "Madame Sansgene" Agreed to refer papers to Mr. Barnett for a valuation in view of a possible relationship between claimant and builder;pointing this out and also that had the relationship not been apparent, Department would have paid as claimed in all probability.
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(b) "Sunshine"
Agreed to pay £203.10.0₫ as claimed.
(c) "Viking III"
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£12
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(a) "Southern Queen" " " pass to P.C.O. (S.T) to arrange
(for a valuer.
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(e)
"Pioneer" Agreed to pay £400 as claimed.
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(f) 16 ft Boat.
" " If £12 as claimed on
(completion of Letter of Abandonment.
(g) 10 ft. "Dinkey" Agreed to pay £12 as claimed on
(completion of Letter of Abandonment.
)
(h) "New Prince of Wales" Agreed to offer insured value
(£5,000.
of fit Due
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JR/KW.
DUNKIRK EVACUATION.
TOTAL LOSS:- CLAIMS OUTSTANDING.
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Name of
File No.
Claim.
Remarks & Action
Vessel.
Taken.
BLACK ARROW
T.M. 4060/40
£700 - £900
Valuation being obtained.
FAITH
T.M. 4070/40
Loss uncertain-letters to owner - no reply.
EMPRESS
QUEEN OF
m
T.M. 3716/40
Awaiting letters of
ENGLAND
administration.
NEMO IV
T.M.3889/40
£4,500
Advanced £250-offer made. awaiting reply.
NEW PRINCE
OF WALES.
T.M.3887/40
£8,696
Advanced £5,000
negotiations, continuing.
NEW WHITE HEATHER
T.M. 3889/40
Offer of £1,325 made, awaiting reply.
SKYLARK III
T.O. 9203/40
£500
Awaiting letters of administration.
LIFEBOATS.
ROYAL MAIL
LINES.
T.M. 5352/40
£236.5.0d.
Awaiting surveyor's report.
FURNESS WITHY
& CO LTD.
T.M. 7508/40
£459. 3. 4d.
Awaiting surveyor's
Total Loss (3)
report.
& Equipment.