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TNA MT 40 36 Pt 2

TNA MT 40 36 Pt 2
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TNA MT 40 36 Pt 2

A second digitised section of MT 40/36: Ministry of Transport papers on the Dynamo small-craft pool, special-service planning and claims procedure.

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Source: The National Archives, Kew, MT 40/36 Pt 2. Contains public sector information licensed under the Open Government Licence v3.0.

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LET
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RECEIVED 26 R SEP P.M. 21 P.M.
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Dear Sirs.
to your letter inquired loat credit number was to the Dunkisk the -
In Teply evactuation. events. and res set or due
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Dunkisk being on five may31st. other done, and vessels. and all at stowed Endecuous. about "Renown preliminary tow away, 10:45 by at "Relian in we Relia the the le ath abrowatie alexar
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cler, "Proceed straight to Dunkisk," and so,
OH ect away from the forctund, we saw hundreds of as 72
gaing to Dunkrite, we went with them.
The Queen
We came in sight of the Gravelines
'ent. K.G.
Bt.
it 6.45 P.M. and then proceeded about three miles e Goloille raite. O.B.E.
off share into Dunkink, at about 7.0.p.m we saw ution the first 1 the German Bombers. about 40 of them and we dodged and zig-zugged about making for
76
the shone all the time, about dusk, (we had nr time to see after times now.) we came inshere, but the swell made it impossible to get any where on d ber, 1940.
the heach, we saw littrary hundreds of army cars on the beaches, and seeing we couldn't get any
.N.6.B.
soliduio off by granding an versel we went along to the dock, where with the now appoaching clarkness we were straining uses eyes to look out for weeks
We picked our first load of men up tion's
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from outside the jetty and were the first loat away gate
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to the loat which we hansferred them to,ahe was L
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called the "Inly"
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10.
The more powerful loats "Renown."
"Defereder" and "Relicince caught us up going lack to d
in the pitch black, to the clock. (all loats cast
Q
away from each other, when the arroplanes same)
and so we were Part to go into the dock
Enclosure
RECEIVED
25 SEPP.M.
Culaminium
25
new
18
Secreta more, impossible the on account of the draft of the Life-boat to do as any it on the Dunkirk Sands full of water, and and other vessels was activities Life-boat set if for Margate. The Life-boat's were close to Neiuport (?) and on the homeward journey
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The Queen stem and we tomed them, about, 3/2 fathems
'Cent, K.G.
rope being the distance behind us, that was
Bt.
e Goloille at + 1.15 am, and tired out, the enineer and raite. O.B.E.
seaman and signilar, went to tern in. as an ution work reemed reasly done, we were congratulating
76
an selves, 1 when at # about 1.50, a terrible explorion look place, and a hail of wood spinters came down on 'oun cleck. In the pitch clark you iber, 1940
could see nothing, and after the explorion, we hurd nothing. and we could du shothing, except pull in the tow tope which was just as we passed it t
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the Renoun about 24 of an hour before, but not a sign of phat insted boat of Renown.
We left our tower, at 8.30
next day (sat) and as the fine trawler got CA
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round her propellor, we proceeded to Ramsgate i
and rope reported, and then proceeded to Screthend, which d
we arrived at 3.30 p.m. We reported at orn station
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es then our job was done.
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foloping same will help you.
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Your obedient servant,
Enclosure
RECEIVED
25 SEPP.M.
Culaminium
25
18
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DUNKIRK COMMITTEE.
MEETING at the HELD AT 11 a.m. on Wednesday 21st August,1940
Ministry of Shipping Room 8021 A.
AGENDA
1
2
Minutes of Meeting held on 14th August, 1940.
Matters Arising.
3
4
Report Cases for of Payments for week ended 20th August, discussion and settlement on the table:- 1940
1. Total Loss:-
"RENOWN"
Osborne Bros.
"LANSDOWNE" Messum & Sons Ltd.
11. Hire:-
5
Any other business.
"ENCOURAGE" etc Bob Leech & Sons

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DUNKIRK CLAIMS COMMITTEE.
boreign
Meeting at held The at 11.a.m. on Friday 7th Rebruary, 1941
Ministry of Shipping,
AGENDA:
1.
Minutes of Meeting held on 17th January, 1941.
2.
Matters arising.
3.
Report of Payments for period ending 6th February, 1941.
4.
Cases for discussion and settlement:-
I. TOTAL LOSS:
"EDITH".
C.E. Miller.
"EDITH DOROTHY".
R. Ladd.
"BLUEJACKET".
R. Ladd.
"CARAMIA".
A. Moody.
"SUE SUE".
F.C. Wilson.
"LILY".
J. Gisby.
"OUR BOYS".
H.J. Verrion.
"MADAME SANSGENE".
Mrs. Shelley.
"RENOWN".
Osborne Bros.
II. REPAIRS.
Belgian Trawler "JACOMINA".
5.
Any other business.
x.
southern Queen hemo IV
C.H. Harvey hemo Motor Boats
$ Princess mand
W.M. wilson

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OCR table 1 from document page 242
Present: Mr. Allen (Chairman)
" Simmons
" Meredith
" Riddell
11 Wand.
OCR table 2 from document page 242
(a) "Edith" : Agreed to offer £30.
(b) "Edith Dorothy") Agreed to enquire into the age of these boats and, subject to the satisfaction of
(c) "Bluejacket" ) P.C.O.(S.T.), to offer £30 and £27 respectively.
(d) "Caramia" Agreed to offer £18
(e) "Sue Sue" " 11 If £20
(f) "Lily" Agreed to pay £20 as claimed.
(g) "Our Boys" " " It £20 11 If
(h) "Madame Sansgene" Agreed to refer back to Mr.Barnett.
(i) "Renown" Agreed to invite owners to attend for discussion at this office.
(k) "Southern Queen" Agreed to negotiate between $432-$486.
(1) "Nemo IV" " " It " £1,000-£1100
(m) "Princess Maud" It It " " £780-£880
(n) Belgian Trawler "Jacomina" Agreed to await further information.
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DUNKIRK COMMITTEE.
Meeting held at 11.a.m. on Wednesday 4th December, 1940, at the Ministry of Shipping, Room 5087.
Present:
Mr. Allen
(Chairman)
"
Simmons
" Moore
"
Riddell
"
Wand
1. Minutes of Meeting held on 21st November were agreed.
2. Matters arising were discussed:-
(a) "Renown" Arising from this case it was agreed to approach
Mr. Harvey of Sittingbourne with a view to his acting as valuer for Thames Estuary Bawley Boats and similar craft.
(b) "Madame Sansgene"
Agreed to withhold further action pending confirmation of the present system of valuation of yachts, motor launches, &c.
(c) "New Prince of Wales" Arising from this case it was agreed to approach Mr. Fredk. Shepherd of 199, Piccadilly with a view to his acting as valuer for
Small Passenger Service Craft.
(a) "Lijns"
Agreed to accept the owner's statement that the ladies clothing claimed for was on board, and, in view of the fact that it had been kept on board for 8 months before the vessel was requisitioned, to offer £10 in settlement.
3. Report of Payments for period ending 3rd December amounting to £4,160.9.8₫
was presented and passed.
4. The following cases were discussed:-
a
Total Loss:-
(a) "CYB"
Agreed to offer £400 with discretion to, increase to £450.
(b) "Handy Billy" Agreed to pay £213.18.6d as claimed.
(c) "Mirasol"
Agreed that the survey report produced by the owner is not alone to be accepted as basis of value.
(a) "Enterprise"
}
Agreed to be dealt with as in 2 (c) above.
"Wave Queen"
(e) "Papillon"
Agreed that owner's claim on his
Affidavit should be subject to normal investigation.
hithoun
20/12/40

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DUNKIRK COMMITTEE.
Meeting held at 11.a.m. on Wednesday 4th December, 1940, at the Ministry of Shipping, Room 5087.
Present:
Mr. Allen
(Chairman)
"
Simmons
"
Moore
"
Riddell
" Wand
1. Minutes of Meeting held on 21st November were agreed.
2. Matters arising were discussed:-
(a) "Renown" Arising from this case it was agreed to approach
Mr. Harvey of Sittingbourne with a view to his acting as valuer for Thames Estuary Bawley Boats and similar craft.
(b) "Madame Sansgene"
Agreed to withhold further action pending confirmation of the present system of valuation of yachts, motor launches, &c.
(c) "New Prince of Wales" Arising from this case it was agreed to approach Mr. Fredk. Shepherd of 199, Piccadilly with a view to his acting as valuer for
Small Passenger Service Craft.
(a) "Lijns"
Agreed to accept the owner's statement that the ladies clothing claimed for was on board, and, in view of the fact that it had been kept on board for 8 months before the vessel was requisitioned, to offer £10 in settlement.
3. Report of Payments for period ending 3rd December amounting to £4,160.9.8d was presented and passed.
4. The following cases were discussed:-
a
Total Loss:-
(a) "CYB"
Agreed to offer £400 with discretion to, increase to £450.
(b) "Handy Billy" Agreed to pay £213.18.6d as claimed.
(c) "Mirasol"
Agreed that the survey report produced by the owner is not alone to be accepted as basis of value.
(a) "Enterprise"
}
Agreed to be dealt with as in 2 (c) above.
"Wave Queen"
(e) "Papillon"
Agreed that owner's claim on his
Affidavit should be subject to normal investigation.
20/12/40

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DUNKIRK COMMITTEE.
Meeting held at 11.a.m. on Thursday 21st November, 1940.
at the Ministry of Shipping, Room 5087.
Present:
Mr. Allen
(Chairman)
If Simmons
11 Moore
"
Riddell
" Wand
1. Minutes of Meeting held on 6th November were agreed.
2. Matters arising were discussed:
(a) "Renown"
Agreed to put case back for valuation.
(b) "Sceneshifter"
Agreed to interview owner's solicitor.
(c) "Brywyn"
Agreed that owner should again be interviewed by representative of
P.C.O. (S.T.)
(a) "Moss Rose"
Agreed to obtain from Fisheries Officer full technical details of this and two other Deal boats "Britannia" and
"Golden Spray".
(e) "Madame Sansgene" Agreed to pay £1,000 on account pending confirmation of valuation.
(f) "New Prince of Wales" Agreed that P.C.O.(S.T.) should recommend a valuer.
3. Report of Payments for period ending 20th November amounting to
£1,970.8.7d was presented and passed.
4. The following cases were discussed:-
1. TOTAL LOSS:
(a) "Gwen Eagle"
Agreed to offer £1,750 in full and final settlement of all claims arising.
(b) "Peggy IV If
Agreed to offer £175 in full settlement.
(c) "Ma Joie"
Agreed to offer £250 in full settlement.
(a) "Aljanor"
Agreed to offer £2,500 which is the insured value and is the sum first claimed.
(e) "Doris"
Agreed to offer £35 each in full
"Edina"
settlement.
"Medora"
11. LOST CLOTHING:
"Lijns"
Agreed to maintain the attitude that the Department does not accept liability.
When
4/12/60

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DUNKIRK COMMITTEE.
Meeting held at 11.a.m. on Wednesday, 6th November, 1940
at the Ministry of Shipping, Room No. 8021A.
Present:
MR. ALLEN
(Chairman)
" SIMMONS
" MOORE
" RIDDELL
" WAND
1. Minutes of Meeting held on 23rd October were agreed.
2. Matters arising were discussed:
(a) "Renown" Agreed to inform owner that the Department will pay
£500 on account if desired while arrangements are made for a valuation.
(b) "Sceneshifter" Agreed to confirm verbal offer of £850.
(c) "Brywyn"
Agreed to wait reply to letter of 5.11.40 and generally to adopt the principle that owner must prove his claim.
(d) "Rosabelle"
Agreed to arrange for Mr. Wimpenny (Fisheries
Officer) to contact the owner and explain
Department's position and without committing
Department, unless it were apparent that claimant would accept, offer settlement of £100.
(e)
"Moss
Rose"
Agreed to ask Mr.Wimpenny to obtain a comparison of the Deal Boats lost.
(f) "Mare Nostrum" Agreed to inform owner that the Department is not satisfied that evidence has been produced to show that the articles covered by the claim were on board.
3. Report of payments for period ending 5th November amounting to
£4,074.7.2a was presented and passed.
4. The following cases were discussed:-
TOTAL LOSS:
(a) "Madame Sansgene" Agreed to refer papers to Mr. Barnett for a valuation in view of a possible relationship between claimant and builder;pointing this out and also that had the relationship not been apparent, Department would have paid as claimed in all probability.
1
(b) "Sunshine"
Agreed to pay £203.10.0₫ as claimed.
(c) "Viking III"
"
"
"
£12
It
"
(a) "Southern Queen" " " pass to P.C.O. (S.T) to arrange
(for a valuer.
,
(e)
"Pioneer" Agreed to pay £400 as claimed.
D
(f) 16 ft Boat.
" " If £12 as claimed on
(completion of Letter of Abandonment.
(g) 10 ft. "Dinkey" Agreed to pay £12 as claimed on
(completion of Letter of Abandonment.
)
(h) "New Prince of Wales" Agreed to offer insured value
(£5,000.
of fit Due
11
21/11/40

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MINUTE SHEET.
Reference
DUNKIRK COMMITTEE.
MEETING HELD AT 4 p.m. ON THURSDAY 26th SEPTEMBER, 1940 AT
THE MINISTRY OF SHIPPING, ROOM 8021 A.
PRESENT:-
Mr. Allen (Chairman)
" Simmons
"
Meredith
" Stokes
" Wand
1.
Minutes of Meeting held on 4th September were agreed.
2. Matters arising were discussed;
(a) "Renown"
Agreed as a first step to ask owner to complete form T.619. Later, if necessary, to refer to
PCO (S.T.) for nomination of a valuer.
OK.
(b) "Westerley"
Agreed to maintain offer of £500, plus any out of pocket expenses incurred by owner.
(c) "Papillon"
Agreed to accept liability for total loss and to proceed accordingly.
Riddell
(d) "Scene
Agreed to prepare case for Tribunal under powers
Shifter"
of compensation (Defence) Act. 1939.
(e) "Brywyn"
Agreed to inform the owner that in view of the absence of evidence in support of his loss or of the value of articles said to be lost, he is offered £40 in settlement of his claim for missing articles.
3. Report of payments for period ending 25th September, amounting to £3003,12...6. was presented and passed.
4. The following cases were discussed:-
(a) TOTAL LOSS
OK
"Golden Spray" Agreed to offer £265 in full settlement of all claims, and, on acceptance, to have letter of
Abandonment drawn up in the name of
"Golden Spray" ex "Bonnie Boy 11"
"Vanitee"
Agreed to call for evidence of purchase price
(700) and later to negotiate settlement up to a maximum of £700.
"Stonehaven"
Agreed to offer £475 to include extra furnishings and fittings.
OK
"Roberta"
Agreed to settle for value of vessel at £850
plus the recommendations of PCO (ST) for fittings.
"Bull Pup"
Agreed to defer action pending examination of the case by PCO (ST)
(1502) 28899/1063
1,500,000 939 JC&SLtd
Gp644'229
/"Rosa Belle"
(REGIMINT)
CODE 5-34-0
[OVER

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DUNKIRK COMMITTEE
Meeting held at 11. a.m. on Wednesday 21st August, 1940, at Ministry of Shipping, Room 8021A.
Present:-
MR. ALLEN (CHAIRMAN)
11 SIMMONS
11 RIDDELL
" WAND
1. Minutes of Meeting held on 14th August were agreed.
2. Matters arising were discussed:
(a) "IOTE" Agreed to increase the offer to
£1,525 in full settlement.
(b) "BEVERLEY" Considered position arising from
1
recent correspondence and interview e
with Mr. Thompson who has undertaken to try to obtain Mr. Cordery's written agreement to permit him to act for both parties. Agreed that in the event of no settlement between the parties, solicitors opinion will be sought.
3. Report of Payments for week ended 20th August amounting to £884.6.2₫ was presented and passed.
4. The following cases were discussed:
1. Total Loss:
(a) "Renown" Agreed to offer £800 which is the insured value.
(b) "Lansdowne" Agreed to offer £500 which is the insured value.
11. Hire:
"Encourage": etc., owned by Bob Leach &
Sons. S.T.O's report considered; agreed to write that no case has been made for further payment.
111. Lost effects:
"Kit Cat": Claim for lost compass considered: Agreed first to try and recover it.
5. Next Meeting fixed for 11.a.m. on Wednesday, 4th September, 1940.
4/8/80

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OCR table 1 from document page 320
Vessel Type Claimant Paper No. and Expenses a S £ Repairs and Replacements £ B d Total Loss £ B d Rema
"RELIANCE" Cockle Boat W. Meddle & Sons TM.3909/40 21 2 - all hands
"RENOWN" Cockle Boat Osborne Bros. TM.3910/40 1050 - - Sunk with
"RESOLUTE" " C. Osborne TM.3911/40 7 18 6
"ROBERTA" M.V. R.B. Grey W. Osborne Ltd. TO.9211/40 12 14 6 893 4 6
"ROBINA TENNANT" H. Leach J. Bull & Co. TO.6648/40 18 12 6 - - 8 1 13 6 Re-allocated to Special Admiralty Service
"ROCINANTE" M.V. TM.4066/40 300 - - C. T. L.
"ROEBUCK" S.S. G.W.R. (Weymouth) TM.4167/40 402 5 -
"ROSALIE" Row Bt. F.C. Wilson TM.9567/40 20 - -
"ROSE" M.F.B. C. Grimes TM.4182/40 15 3 - 16 8 9 To V.A. Dover
"ROSELYNE" Cargo Vessel Risdon Beazley Ltd. Petroleum Board TM.3979/40 20 12 3 8 56
"ROSE MARIE" M.V. H.W. Harvey F. Upton W. J. Bailey TM.4092/40 4 11 6 20 18 6 9 - - 6 - - 78 11 -
"ROYAL THAMES" S.L. J. Mears Ltd. TM.3719/40 see under "JEFF"
"RUMMY II" M.B. R.R. Neville TM.3811/40 3 5 - A. P. S.
"RAPID I" M.C. P. G. Broom TM.4348/40 8 14 - 35 - - 157 11 -
"RUBY" M.B. P. Newall Petticrow Ltd. TM.4450/40 1 1 2
"ROSABELLE" F.V. J.C. Wood TM.4784/40 100 - -
"ROSE" L.N.19 M.B. A. Large TM.6100/40 7 14 6
"ROSE" M.B. W. Voysey TM.5229/40 6 19 10 1 10 -
"RAUMA" M.V. Not
"REMEMBRANCE" M.F.B. F. Good G.K. Cann TM.6465/40 24 - - 4 11 8 completed.
"RENIF" Launch Sandbanks Yacht Co. TM.7539/40 16 10 -
"REMARIE" M.V. D. Hillyard TM.7340/40 5
"ROYAL ROSE" S.M.265 M.V. J.W. Nye TM.4991/40 2 6 3
"ROYALTY" M.Bge. F.T. Everard & Sons TO.9298/40 3 - 93 18 1 1845 - -
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Repairs and
Expenses and
Replacements
Vessel
Type
I
Claimant
1
Paper No.
I
£. S. d.
E. S. d.
VALUATIONS.
Various Barges in
W.N.Sparks & Son.
AG.20,053/40
53. 6. 6. 8. 8.
"
13
F.J.Talbot.
"
"
"
"
C.Howie.
53. 6. 8.
Passenger Pleasure
Boats
10
Frederick Shepherd.
AG.20,044/40
42.
"MOSS ROSE"
&
we
W.H.Harvey.
AG.20,043/40
9. 5.11.
"RENOWN"
Various
Payments made locally by Officers of the
Ministry of
Agriculture and
AG./3/3486/40
mm
5,811. 1. 3.
Fisheries,
730. 8. 6.
$14,614.12. 3.
8