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Lloyd’s Yacht Register (1939)

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Page: Lloyds_Register_of_Yachts_1939_0647
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6202 Sceneshifter Wood TwnSc 15.07 40.0 91 5.3 Borwick& Bowness 2 Petrol Motors Sydney E. Longman Liverpool
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Symre II - Nanin II. Thendara 94 m. Sulara. Top IV - Flirt. Turnaware 14 m. Sceneshifter.
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a. Lady Una 14 m. Sceneshifter 14 a. Banjaard 13 m. Hammercop 13 a. North Star 13 Tuctoo 13
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m. Sceneshifter a. Failthe II 12 a. Vigilate II 6 m. Bedouin 13 Pieterke 5
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Longman, Sydney E., Fair Oak, Portsmouth Road, Esher, Surrey.-Mtr. m. Sceneshifter 14 Bordeaux. Caledonia - Lothian, Albert J., Nassau, Bahamas. Low, Alex. H., 11, Beaufort Road, Hanger Hill, Ealing, London, W.5.-L.S.-M.B.A.-Mtr. m. Valexia 4 a. Guenora (P.O) 17 Lowen, Lionel W., c/o Barclays Bank. Ltd., Barnet, Herts.-M.B.A.-R.A.F. The Glebe House, Westerham, Kent. Eng. a. Isabella 4 Lubinus, Dr. H.,
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Name of Vessel
Date
Cause and Position
Remarks
PRINCESS LILY
OWNER
31/5/40
REMARKS
Unknown
LOST
approx.
OUR BOYS (Boat)
"
11
RENOWN (Cockle Boat)
"
Lifebont
11
Dutah
Mined and sunk with
"
"
Duton
all hands.
ROBERTA
Unknown
"
ROSABELLE
"
Dutch
"
ST. PATRICK
"
Dutch
ASSUMED LOST
"
SANTOSY
"
Dutch
LOST
11
"
SARAH & EMILY
"
11
"
SEA FALCON (Boat)
11
Dutch
Abandoned - Dunkirk
"
SHAMROCK
11
Dutch
"
"
17
SKYLARK 3. (SM281)
"
Dutch
11
Dutch
Unknown
19
SCENESHIFTER
11
"
SONIA
"
"
"
SKYLARK 2.
"
Duton
"
11
SKYLARK 3.
11
Dutals
"
"
SOUTHERN QUEEN
11
Dutan
"
"
STONEHAVEN
"
"
"
SUNSHINE
"
Dutch
"
"
SUE SUE (Rowboat)
"
Dutor
11
11
THETIS
If
Lost while being towed
"
from Dunkirk
TRITON
11
Unknown
"
TWO RIVERS
"
"
If
VIEWFINDER
"
"
11
VIKING 3.
"
"
12
VANITEE
11
"
"
WARRIOR
"
Abandoned off Dunkirk
"
WAVE QUEEN
"
Unknown
11
COMMODORE
"
"
11
WESTERLEY
"
On fire and abandoned -
If
Dunkirk
GRACE DARLING
If
Unknown
ASSUMED LOST
QUEEN OF ENGLAND
"
Sunk in collision with
LOST
S.S. TILLY.
MARY SPEARING
"
Unknown
"
"
"
"
CANVEY QUEEN
"
HAZARD
Did not return from
Dunkirk
PREVIOUSLY
MISS JOSEPHONE I.
11
Do.
REQUISITIONED
If
"
MOSS ROSE
AND ON NAVAL
"
11
SERVICE BUT
PELLAG 2.
11
If
UTILISED FOR
SEAMEW
"DYNAMO".
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M/B Sceneshifter swamped and lost 53
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WEDNESDAY, 29TH MAY
CHAP. VI
M/B Sceneshifter swamped and lost
The M/B Silver Moon, from Ramsgate, arrived off the beaches at 0800 and
ferried troops to ships at anchor. Without charts or compass she returned to
Ramsgate that night. The M/B Sceneshifter, on arrival, was rushed by French
troops, swamped, and became a total loss.
M/B Viewfinder dragged aground and lost
The six motor yachts, Advance, Bobeli, Elizabeth Green, Hanora, Reda and
Viewfinder sailed from Dover for La Panne beach and were machine-gunned
from the air off Gravelines. They arrived off La Panne beach at about
1500/29, and at once began towing whalers full of troops to off-lying ships.
At 1830, the Viewfinder was dragged aground by Belgian soldiers and became
a total loss.
M/B's Hanora and Bobeli abandoned
At 1900, the Hanora fouled her propeller and was abandoned; her crew
transferred to the Elizabeth Green and thence to the minesweeper Lydd. At
1900 also, the dr. Sabre requisitioned the Advance and embarked in her a W/T
transmitter and 2 operators for transportation to G.H.Q. at La Panne. The
Reda, having ferried troops, sailed for Ramsgate at 2200 with 21 troops on
board. The Bobeli having received some damage while alongside a destroyer
which suddenly went full ahead on account of an air attack, subsequently
fouled her screw and rudder; she made fast. to the minesweeper Albury, but
was abandoned when the Albury departed and became stranded on the beach.
The Elizabeth Green and Advance sailed in company that night for Ramsgate.
M/B Glitter II brings drinking water
The Glitter II arrived off Bray beach at 1600 on the 29th May, loaded with
tins of fresh water. She then ferried troops. Next day she lost her rudder and
was towed to Dover by a drifter.
M/B Queen of England sunk
A number of other small motor craft left Southend, Sheerness or Dover for
the beaches on the 29th May, but did not arrive until 30th May. Among them
was the Shamrock, and in company with her were the Princess Maud, Canvey
Queen and Queen of England. On the way over on the night of the 29th/30th
May the Queen of England was rammed amidships by the skoot Tilly and sank
immediately ; her crew were picked up by the Shamrock and transferred to
the Tilly1. The remaining three motor boats were all abandoned and lost next
day after ferrying troops to various destroyers, among them the Anthony;
the Canvey Queen and Shamrock fouled their propellers, and the Princess Maud
went aground.
The Mirasol², alongside Dunkirk mole, was damaged by a near miss. She
was taken in tow by a trawler, but later sank.
Other M/B's that sailed for the beaches on 29th May
The Triton and Silver Queen, with 6 motor launches in company, sailed for
La Panne at 2200. Three of the motor launches broke down on the way over
I Shamrock's report, unconfirmed. The name of the vessel is in doubt; the matter is
not referred to in Tilly's report.
2 Commonly, but erroneously referred to in reports as the " Marasole."
53
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WEDNESDAY, 29TH MAY
CHAP. VI
Ships lost or damaged on 29th May
H.M. SHIPS SUNK
The destroyers Wakeful, Grafton and Grenade.
The armed boarding vessel King Orrry
The Special Service Vessel Crested Eagle.
The Paddle Minesweepers Waverley and Gracie Fields.¹
The Personnel Vessels Normania,1 Lorina, Fenella and Mona's Queen.
The trawlers Polly Johnson and Calvi.
The danlayers Comfort and Nautilus.
The drifter Girl Pamela².
H.M. SHIPS DAMAGED AND PUT OUT OF ACTION.
The destroyers Saladin, Greyhound, Intrepid, Montrose, Mackay, Gallant
and Jaguar.
The sloop Bideford.
The minesweeper Pangbourne (required dockyard repairs).
The personnel vessel Canterbury.
The hospital carrier Isle of Guernsey.
OTHER VESSELS
SUNK A.L.C.16, the S.S. Clan Macalister (6,900 tons), the M/B's Minikoi,
Viewfinder, Bobeli, Hanora, Sceneshifter and Queen of England.
DAMAGED AND PUT OUT OF ACTION The tug Sun V.
Destroyers of the "H," "I" and "J" Classes withdrawn
As a result of the heavy casualties and losses amongst the destroyer force,
particularly the misfortunes which befell those of the larger and more modern
types, a consultation was held between the Admiralty and the Vice-Admiral,
Dover, on 29th May, which led to a decision to withdraw the 7 destroyers of
the "H", "I" and "J" Classes from "Dynamo"3; they were the only
modern destroyers remaining with Vice-Admiral, Dover. All destroyers of
the "G" class⁴ were already out of action.
There remained available for "Dynamo" 15 destroyers : :-
Esk
Malcolm
Verity
Express
Whitehall
Vanquisher
Anthony
Winchelsea
Sabre
Keith
Worcester
Scimitar
Codrington
Windsor
Shikari
Excluding any casualties, this number of destroyers might be expected to
maintain a flow of one destroyer per hour to the coast and would lift 17,000
troops in 24 hours⁵. It is noteworthy that in spite of their unsuitability for
the work of troop carrying, the 39 destroyers so employed in Dynamo"
brought off more troops-96,000-than any other type of ship (see Table 1).
The 45 personnel vessels brought off 87,000; the 36 minesweepers 46,000;
the 39 skoots 22,000 ; and among the smaller vessels, the 51 drifters brought
off 12,000.
I Actually sank on 30th May, as a result of damage received on 29th May.
2 In collision with the Lydd off Dunkirk harbour on the night of 28th/29th May.
3 The Icarus, Impulsive, Intrepid, Ivanhoe, Harvester, Havant and Javelin.
4 The Gallant, Grafton, Grenade and Greyhound.
5 D.R. p.11, para. 37.
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WEDNESDAY, 29TH MAY
CHAP. VI
Ships lost or damaged on 29th May
H.M. SHIPS SUNK
The destroyers Wakeful, Grafton and Grenade.
The armed boarding vessel King Orrry
The Special Service Vessel Crested Eagle.
The Paddle Minesweepers Waverley and Gracie Fields.¹
The Personnel Vessels Normania,1 Lorina, Fenella and Mona's Queen.
The trawlers Polly Johnson and Calvi.
The danlayers Comfort and Nautilus.
The drifter Girl Pamela².
H.M. SHIPS DAMAGED AND PUT OUT OF ACTION.
The destroyers Saladin, Greyhound, Intrepid, Montrose, Mackay, Gallant
and Jaguar.
The sloop Bideford.
The minesweeper Pangbourne (required dockyard repairs).
The personnel vessel Canterbury.
The hospital carrier Isle of Guernsey.
OTHER VESSELS
SUNK A.L.C.16, the S.S. Clan Macalister (6,900 tons), the M/B's Minikoi,
Viewfinder, Bobeli, Hanora, Sceneshifter and Queen of England.
DAMAGED AND PUT OUT OF ACTION The tug Sun V.
Destroyers of the "H," "I" and "J" Classes withdrawn
As a result of the heavy casualties and losses amongst the destroyer force,
particularly the misfortunes which befell those of the larger and more modern
types, a consultation was held between the Admiralty and the Vice-Admiral,
Dover, on 29th May, which led to a decision to withdraw the 7 destroyers of
the "H", "I" and "J" Classes from "Dynamo"3; they were the only
modern destroyers remaining with Vice-Admiral, Dover. All destroyers of
the "G" class4 were already out of action.
There remained available for "Dynamo" 15 destroyers :-
Esk
Malcolm
Verity
Express
Whitehall
Vanquisher
Anthony
Winchelsea
Sabre
Keith
Worcester
Scimitar
Codrington
Windsor
Shikari
Excluding any casualties, this number of destroyers might be expected to
maintain a flow of one destroyer per hour to the coast and would lift 17,000
troops in 24 hours⁵. It is noteworthy that in spite of their unsuitability for
the work of troop carrying, the 39 destroyers so employed in ' Dynamo "
brought off more troops-96,000-than any other type of ship (see Table 1).
The 45 personnel vessels brought off 87,000; the 36 minesweepers 46,000 ;
the 39 skoots 22,000 ; and among the smaller vessels, the 51 drifters brought
off 12,000.
I Actually sank on 30th May, as a result of damage received on 29th May.
2 In collision with the Lydd off Dunkirk harbour on the night of 28th/29th May.
3 The Icarus, Impulsive, Intrepid, Ivanhoe, Harvester, Havant and Javelin.
4 The Gallant, Grafton, Grenade and Greyhound.
5 D.R. p.11, para. 37.
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INDEX
Royal Air Command, 64, 83-4, 4, 88 (evacuated (fired from France), 17, 20, 30,
(attacks 38 all that was asked of them, concentrated 123. at dawn and dusk): 100,
(patrols Stren batteries) ; 99 (patrols on by own ships), 89, 93, 99
Royal Daffodil, 20, 25, 100-1. 29, 54n, 62, 102, 110 (damaged).
110-111, 115; did
Royal Royal Sovereign, 29n, 54n, 64n, 107n, 108-9, 114n, 115, 117.
Eagle, 42, 81,
95 (sunk).
Royally,114n,
Sabre, 23, 27, 44, 47n, 49 (takes across with beach parties), 53, 54n, 55, 62n, 64 (damaged), 86,
97, 101, 107, 114n, 118 (crosses compass damaged).
St. Abbs, 71n, 90 (sunk).
Achilleus, sunk, 93.
St. St. Andrew, Shelled, 18: bombed, 20 ; last trip, 87.
Ste. Bernadette de Lourdes, 107n.
St. Clears, 32, 46.
St. David, damaged, 38, 95.
Ste. Denise Louise, 107n.
St. Fagan, 71n, 88 (sunk).
St. Helier, 20, 25, 64n, 94, 98-9, 108-9.
Ste. Isabelle, 74.
St. Julien, shelled, 17 bombed, 20, 43; crew supplemented, 48n; last trip, 87.
St. Olaves, 107n.
St. Patrick, 75n.
St. Seiriol, 22, 24, 29, 43, 48 (damaged).
Saladin, 44-5 (damaged).
Salamander, 28n, 31, 42, 47, 86 (damaged), 89-90.
Saltash, 91-2.
Sambre, 60.
Sandown, 23n, 27, 31, 42, 105 (forbidden to sail).
Santosy, lost, 117.
Saon, 34n, 110.
Sargasso, 60n, 107n, 108.
Sark, 60.
Saturn, 114n, 118.
S.C.6 (French), 107n.
Sceneshifter, rushed and sunk by French troops, 53.
Schuyts. see skoots.
Scimitar, 20n, 28n, 54n, 55, 62n, 91.
Scotia, 29n, 54n, 83 (in collision), 92 (sunk), 118 (record lift).
Scottish Co-operator, 60.
Sea Falcon, 75n.
Seaplane Tender 243, 71n, 75n, 110 (sunk).
Seaplane Tender 254, 71n.
Seaplane Tender 276, 71n, 110.
Seaplane Tender 291, 71n, 75 (damaged).
Seasalter, 60.
Sea Transport Officials, serve in personnel ships, 48; in Dynamo Room, 74.
Secrecy, effect on supply of small craft, 15.
Seine, 31n, 60, 102.
Sequacity, 19, 28.
Seriola, 71n.
Shamrock, lost, 53.
Sharpshooter, 28n, 54n, 97.
Shearwater, 34, 88, 99.
Sheldvake, 34, 37n, 69 (hunts S/M.), 93.
Shell fire (German) : causes serious interruption to shipping, 19; Route Y under fire, 48;
La Panne beach shelled, 60, 76; interrupts sailings of personal ships, 70; danger of,
magnified at Dover, 98.
Sherfield, 72n, 90.
Shelland, 60.
Shikari, 20n, 28n, 47n, 54n, 55, 97, 102, 107, 114n, 119-20 (in Operation CK), 127.
Shipmates, 23n.
Signalling, see Communications.
Silver Dawn, 32n, 51n.
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Empire Hotel
Horrist
CS.-
me of Vessel
Date
Cause and Position
Remarks
PRINCESS LILY
31/5/40
Unknown
LOST
approx.
"
OUR BOYS (Boat)
11
"
"
RENOWN (Cockle Boat)
"
Mined and sunk with
all hands.
"
"
ROBERTA
Unknown
N.
ROSABELLE
"
"
ASSUMED LOST
"
"
LOST
ST. PATRICK
"
"
"
SANTOSY
"
"
"
SARAH & EMILY
ough
"
SEA FALCON (Boat)
"
Abandoned - Dunkirk
"
"
"
"
SHAMROCK
untit
"
SKYLARK 3. (SM281)
"
Unknown
was
"
"
"
SCENESHIFTER
"
"
"
SONIA
"
"
11
SKYLARK 2.
"
"
ff
SKYLARK 3.
in
"
"
"
SOUTHERN QUEEN
"
OS as
"
"
STONEHAVEN
"
tish
"
"
SUNSHINE
"
SUE SUE (Rowboat)
"
"
"
"
Lost while being towed
e
THETIS
from Dunkirk
"
"
TRITON
Unknown
"
"
"
TWO RIVERS
"
"
"
VIEWFINDER
11
"
"
VIKING 3.
"
"
"
VANITEE
"
"
Abandoned off Dunkirk
is
WARRIOR
"
"
WAVE QUEEN
Unknown
"
"
"
1
COMMODORE
"
"
On fire and abandoned -
WESTERLEY
Dunkirk
17
Unknown
ASSUMED LOST
GRACE DARLING
"
QUEEN OF ENGLAND
Sunk in collision with
LOST
S.S. TILLY.
3)
"
"
MARY SPEARING
Unknown
"
"
"
CANVEY QUEEN
"
Did not return from
HAZARD
Dunkirk
PREVIOUSLY
"
Do.
REQUISITIONED
MISS JOSEPHONE I.
"
11
AND ON NAVAL
MOSS ROSE
"
"
SERVICE BUT
PELLAG 2.
"
"
UTILISED FOR
SEAMEW
"DYNAMO".
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Name of Vessel
Date
Cause and Position
Remarks
PRINCESS LILY
31.5.40
Unknown.
LOST
approx.
OUR BOYS (Boat)
"
"
"
RENOWN (Cockle Boat)
"
Mined & sunk with
"
all hands.
ROBERTA
"
Unknown.
"
ROSABELLE
"
If
ASSUMED LOST.
ST. PATRICK
"
"
LOST.
SANTOSY
"
"
"
SARAH & EMILY
If
11
"
SEA FALCON (Boat)
"
Abandoned - Dunkirk
11
SHAMROCK
"
"
"
If
SKYLARK 3. (SM281)
If
Unknown
"
SCENESHIFTER
If
"
"
SONIA
"
"
12
SKYLARK 2.
II
If
"
SKYLARK 3.
"
"
"
SOUTHERN QUEEN
"
11
"
STONEHAVEN.
"
11
"
SUNSHINE
"
"
"
SUE SUE (Rowboat)
11
11
"
THETIS
"
Lost while being towed
"
from Dunkirk.
TRITON
11
Unknown.
"
TWO RIVERS
11
It
11
VIEWFINDER
11
11
"
VIKING 3.
=
11
"
VANITEE
11
11
11
WARRIOR
11
Abandoned off Dunkirk.
11
WAVE QUEEN
"
Unknown.
11
COMMODORE
"
11
"
WESTERLEY
11
On fire & abandoned -
"
Dunkirk.
-7-
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1
TO DOVER LETTER OF 6 ans. 19to
ENCLOSURE No
- 2 -
VI Yachts and Small Craft. (Continued).
Pioneer.
Chelsea.
Two Rivers.
Charlotte.
Unique.
Diana Mary. - DOVER
Eothen.
Cuisisana.
Ramagete 18/6
Princess Lily.
/
The King.
Count Dracula.
Royal Thames.
Gayfly.
Formosa.
Sallyforth.
Margherita.
Kayell.
Maldon Annie.
Anthony.
Canvey Queen.
Imshi.
Miss Ming.
Sinbad II.
Princess Maud.
Curlew.
Empress.
Skylark.
Faversham.
Bream.
Queen Boadicea.
Pike.
Queen Boadicea. II.
Windsor Castle.
Vera.
Omega.
Daphne.
Tinker.
Kingwood.
Black Arrow.
Hurlingham.
Thetis.
The Viscount.
Aljanor.
His Majesty.
Silvery Breeze.
The Marchioness.
Rummy II.
Mutt.
Thark. ih,Dovier 18/6
Jeff.
Thurne.
Beverley.
Fleetwing.
St. Patrick.
Miss Modesty.
Skylark. (whech of may ?)
Gay Venture.
Spinaway.
Westerly.
Mary Rose.
Sylvia.
Advance.
Lorna Doone.
Hanora.
Hazard.
Maid of Honour.
Tigris I.
Cordelia.
Iote.
View Finder.
Shamrock.
Karina.
Queen of England.
Triton.
Wolsey.
Stonehaven.
X
Sceneshifter.
1 name unknown (Thames Conservancy).
1 Seaschool Yacht (Shipping Federation, Cmdr. Cavill).
VII Power Driven Lifeboats.
26 out of 27 have not been returned. It is
understood that 3 are still at Ramsgate.
VIII Ordinary Lifeboats.
34 out of 87 have not been returned.
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DUNKIRK COMMITTEE.
Meeting held at 11.a.m. on Thursday 21st November, 1940.
at the Ministry of Shipping, Room 5087.
Present:
Mr. Allen
(Chairman)
If Simmons
11 Moore
"
Riddell
" Wand
1. Minutes of Meeting held on 6th November were agreed.
2. Matters arising were discussed:
(a) "Renown"
Agreed to put case back for valuation.
(b) "Sceneshifter"
Agreed to interview owner's solicitor.
(c) "Brywyn"
Agreed that owner should again be
interviewed by representative of
P.C.O. (S.T.)
(a) "Moss Rose"
Agreed to obtain from Fisheries Officer
full technical details of this and two
other Deal boats "Britannia" and
"Golden Spray".
(e) "Madame Sansgene" Agreed to pay £1,000 on account pending
confirmation of valuation.
(f) "New Prince of Wales" Agreed that P.C.O.(S.T.) should recommend
a valuer.
3. Report of Payments for period ending 20th November amounting to
£1,970.8.7d was presented and passed.
4. The following cases were discussed:-
1. TOTAL LOSS:
(a) "Gwen Eagle"
Agreed to offer £1,750 in full and
final settlement of all claims
arising.
(b) "Peggy IV If
Agreed to offer £175 in full
settlement.
(c) "Ma Joie"
Agreed to offer £250 in full
settlement.
(a) "Aljanor"
Agreed to offer £2,500 which is
the insured value and is the sum
first claimed.
(e) "Doris"
Agreed to offer £35 each in full
"Edina"
settlement.
"Medora"
11. LOST CLOTHING:
"Lijns"
Agreed to maintain the attitude
that the Department does not
accept liability.
When
4/12/60
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DUNKIRK COMMITTEE.
Meeting held at 11.a.m. on Wednesday, 6th November, 1940
at the Ministry of Shipping, Room No. 8021A.
Present:
MR. ALLEN
(Chairman)
" SIMMONS
" MOORE
" RIDDELL
" WAND
1. Minutes of Meeting held on 23rd October were agreed.
2. Matters arising were discussed:
(a) "Renown" Agreed to inform owner that the Department will pay
£500 on account if desired while arrangements are
made for a valuation.
(b) "Sceneshifter" Agreed to confirm verbal offer of £850.
(c) "Brywyn"
Agreed to wait reply to letter of 5.11.40 and
generally to adopt the principle that owner must
prove his claim.
(d) "Rosabelle"
Agreed to arrange for Mr. Wimpenny (Fisheries
Officer) to contact the owner and explain
Department's position and without committing
Department, unless it were apparent that claimant
would accept, offer settlement of £100.
(e)
"Moss
Rose"
Agreed to ask Mr.Wimpenny to obtain a comparison
of the Deal Boats lost.
(f) "Mare Nostrum" Agreed to inform owner that the Department is
not satisfied that evidence has been produced
to show that the articles covered by the claim
were on board.
3. Report of payments for period ending 5th November amounting to
£4,074.7.2a was presented and passed.
4. The following cases were discussed:-
TOTAL LOSS:
(a) "Madame Sansgene" Agreed to refer papers to Mr. Barnett
for a valuation in view of a possible
relationship between claimant and
builder;pointing this out and also
that had the relationship not been
apparent, Department would have paid
as claimed in all probability.
1
(b) "Sunshine"
Agreed to pay £203.10.0₫ as claimed.
(c) "Viking III"
"
"
"
£12
It
"
(a) "Southern Queen" " " pass to P.C.O. (S.T) to arrange
(for a valuer.
,
(e)
"Pioneer" Agreed to pay £400 as claimed.
D
(f) 16 ft Boat.
" " If £12 as claimed on
(completion of Letter of Abandonment.
(g) 10 ft. "Dinkey" Agreed to pay £12 as claimed on
(completion of Letter of Abandonment.
)
(h) "New Prince of Wales" Agreed to offer insured value
(£5,000.
of
fit Due
11
21/11/40
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DUNKIRK COMMITTEE.
Meeting held at 11.a.m. on Wednesday 23rd October, 1940 at the
Ministry of Shipping. Room No. 8021.A.
Present:
MR. ALLEN (Chairman)
" MOORE
"
RIDDELL
"
WAND
1. Minutes of Meeting held on 26th September were agreed.
2. Matters arising were discussed.
(a) "Sceneshifter" Agreed to refer the case to Mr. Barnett of
Watson & Co.Glasgow.
(b) "Brywyn"
Agreed to maintain committee's attitude unless
owner produces evidence of loss or value.
(c) "Vanitee"
Agreed to offer £700 which is sum stated by
owner on T619 to be acceptable.
(a) "Stonehaven"
Agreed to offer £500 in full settlement.
(e) "Bullpup"
Agreed to offer £450 - the insured value.
(f) "Rosabelle"
Agreed to offer £75 in full settlement.
3. Report of Payments for period ending 22nd October amounting to
£5,834.15.8d was presented and passed.
4. The following cases were discussed:-
(a) TOTAL LOSS:
"Thetis" Agreed to offer £225 in full settlement.
"Moss Rose" Agreed to make comparison with other Deal Boats
"Maid of Honour" Agreed to offer £425 (Tough's valuation)
( in full settlement.
"Minikoi" Agreed to require Letters of Administration in
favour of the widow before opening negotiations.
"Princess Lily"
}
Agreed to forward forms T619 and at the
"Court Belle II"
same time to offer, if required, advances
on account of 2/3rds of insured values.
"Hanora"
Agreed to offer £565 in full settlement.
"Miranda"
Agreed to settle at owners claim of £20. 1
"Triton"
Agreed to settle at owners claim of £1,500
"Two Rivers"
Agreed to offer £370 in full settlement.
"Sarah & Emily"
Agreed to settle at owners claim of £30,
if, after enquiry, boat had not returned.
à
"Wolsey"
0 2
Agreed to offer £250 which is sum stated
by owner on T619 to be acceptable.
Barges (8)
hings
Agreed to negotiate settlements up to
the valuation figures.
(b) Repairs & Replacements:
)
"Mare Nostrum" : Agreed to pay the repair bill as
recommended on survey report, to refer
to P.CO(S.T) for valuation of missing
of
articles and to take no action on
expenses claim, until reasonably
presented.
lle"
"Kit Cat" :
Agreed to settle claim at £12.
6/11/40
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