TNA MT 40 36 Pt 2

DUNKIRK COMMITTEE
Meeting held at 11. a.m. on Wednesday 21st August, 1940, at Ministry of Shipping, Room 8021A.
Present:-
MR. ALLEN (CHAIRMAN)
11 SIMMONS
11 RIDDELL
" WAND
1. Minutes of Meeting held on 14th August were agreed.
2. Matters arising were discussed:
(a) "IOTE" Agreed to increase the offer to
£1,525 in full settlement.
(b) "BEVERLEY" Considered position arising from
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recent correspondence and interview e
with Mr. Thompson who has undertaken to try to obtain Mr. Cordery's written agreement to permit him to act for both parties. Agreed that in the event of no settlement between the parties, solicitors opinion will be sought.
3. Report of Payments for week ended 20th August amounting to £884.6.2₫ was presented and passed.
4. The following cases were discussed:
1. Total Loss:
(a) "Renown" Agreed to offer £800 which is the insured value.
(b) "Lansdowne" Agreed to offer £500 which is the insured value.
11. Hire:
"Encourage": etc., owned by Bob Leach &
Sons. S.T.O's report considered; agreed to write that no case has been made for further payment.
111. Lost effects:
"Kit Cat": Claim for lost compass considered: Agreed first to try and recover it.
5. Next Meeting fixed for 11.a.m. on Wednesday, 4th September, 1940.
4/8/80

DUNKIRK COMMITTEE.
MEETING HELD AT 11.am.ON WEDNESDAY 14th AUGUST.
1940. AT THE MINISTRY OF SHIPPING.ROOM 8021A.
PRESENT:
Mr.Allen.
(Chairman)
" Moore.
"
Riddell.
" Wand.
1.
Minutes of Meeting held on 7th August were agreed.
2.
Matters arising were discussed:
(a) "IOTE":
Agreed to a final offer of £1,500 in full settlement.
(a) "BEVERLEY": Agreed, that in view of the fact that the joint owners are acting independently of each other they should be informed that it is proposed to take no further action in the case until they appoint one person to have full powers to negotiate with the department on their joint behalf.
3.
Report of payments for week ended 13th August, amounting to £256. 18. 1., was presented and passed.
4.
The following cases were discussed:-
1. TOTAL LOSS.
(a)
"ALBATROSS": Agreed to make a first and final offer of £225 in full settlement.
(b)
"ALOHA-OE":
Agreed to offer £250 in full settlement.
11. REPAIRS.
(a) "BRYWYN"
Agreed as a first step that P.C.O.(S.T.)
should arrange to meet owner and discuss repairs, and items of alleged lost gear.
Whom
21/8/40

DUNKIRK COMMITTEE
Meeting held at 11 a.m. on Wednesday 7th August, 1940
at the Ministry of Shipping, Room 8021A.
Present: Mr. Allen (Chairman)
" Simmons
" Moore
" Riddell
" Wand
1. Minutes of Meeting held on 31st July were agreed.
2. Matters arising were discussed.
(a) "Britannic": New evidence was considered and it was agreed to offer the owner (Mr. Budd) £375 in full and final settlement of all his claims.
(b) "Pote": Agreed to make a formal offer of £1,350 in full and final settlement.
(c) "Count Dracula": Agreed to offer £250 in full and final settlement of all claims of the owner, leaving him to liquidate any outstanding charges arising from any delay in arriving at a settlement.
(a) "Viewfinder": Agreed to approach the owner and arrange settlement up to £950.
(e) "Beverley": Agreed to offer £500 in full and final settlement of all claims.
(f) "Elvin": Agreed to pay for wages as claimed plus
2½% agency fee.
3. Report of Payments for week ended 6th August amounting to
£3,116.17.4₫. was presented and passed.
4. The following cases were discussed:-
(a) Total Loss:
"Little Ann": Agreed to offer £600 in full settlement.
"Bobel$": Agreed to offer £1,100
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"Westerley": Agreed not necessarily to accept insured figure for Total Loss value, but to obtain further evidence as to date of purchase, condition etc.
"Kingfisher": Agreed to pay £70 in full and final settlement of all claims.
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Committee to deal with claims of small craft employed in the Dunkirk and subsequent operations.
Meeting held at ll.a.m. on Wednesday 31st July 1940
at the Ministry of Shipping. Room 8021.A.
.......
Present:-
Mr. Allen (Chairman)
" Moore
"
Riddell
" Wand
.....
1. Minutes of Meeting held on 24th July were agreed.
2. Matters arising were discussed
(a) "Britannic": Rye Fishery Officer is endeavouring to find a suitable boat.
(b) Sailing Barges:
"Ada
Mary": Agreed to Repair and negotiate settlement.
"Hastaway"
"
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"Ashingdon"
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"Basildon"
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have valued.
"Burton"
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"Shannon"
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:
(c) "Iote": Agreed to invite owner to call and discuss terms of settlement at £1,250 - £1,400.
(d) "Count Dracula": Agreed to obtain valuation from
Messrs Tough's.
3. Report of Payments for week ended 30th July amounting to
£1,541.17.10d was presented and passed.
4. The following Total Loss Cases were discussed:-
(a) "Warrior": Agreed to offer £125 in full and final settlement.
(b) "Rocinante" Agreed to offer £300 in full and final settlement.
(c) "Viewfinder":
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£900
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(a) "Beverley":
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5. "Elvin": Claim for wages was deferred until next meeting.
6. Next Meeting fixed for ll.a.m. on Wednesday 7th August, 1940.
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Committee to deal with claims of small craft employed in the
Dunkirk and subsequent operations
Meeting held at 10.30 a.m. on Wednesday 10th July, 1940
at the Ministry of Shipping Room 8014.
Present:-
Mr. Robson (Chairman)
Mr. Simmons (Treasury)
Mr. Allen
Tatal
Mr. Moore
Mr. Riddell
Mr. Wand
1. Minutes of the Meeting held on 3rd June were agreed as amended.
2. Report of Payments for the week ended 9th July amounting to
£508.4.5d. was presented and passed.
3. Various claims for Loss of Earnings discussed. It was agreed that the basis of settlement should be Hire as prescribed by Rates of
Hire Section for comparable craft, increased at the committee's discretion to compensate owners for a short term engagement.
4. Agreed that the Ministry of Shipping Solicitor should be asked to formulate a Notice of Abandonment to be signed by owners before payment is made in settlement of Total Loss Compensation, in cases where the Department has not been able to obtain definite information of Total Loss.
5. Announced that Mr. G.J. Allen of the Accountant General's
Department will be the chairman of the committee for future meetings in the place of Mr. W. Robson who is being evacuated to Blackpool.
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24/7/40

COMMITTEE TO DEAL WITH CLAIMS OF SMALL CRAFT EMPLOYED
IN THE DUNKIRK AND SUBSEQUENT EVACUATION OPERATIONS.
MEETING held at 10.30. a.m. on WEDNESDAY,
3rd JULY, 1940, at the MINISTRY of SHIPPING
Room 8014.
PRESENT:-
MR. ROBSON (Chairman)
MR. SIMMONS (Treasury)
MR. MOORE
MR. RIDDELL and
MR. WAND.
1. Minutes of the Meeting of 24th June were agreed.
2. Report of payments for the week ending 2nd July amounting to £334.5.2. was presented and passed.
3. Proposals put forward by Mr. Moore for settling claims in respect of sailing barges were considered.
(1) Rates of Hire.
Agreed as in the Schedule before the
Committee.
(11) Compensation for total loss.
General principles agreed.
Two valuations will be called for normally, with a third when necessary, (Suggested the fee for a valuation be limited to £5 5/5/. 14 this could be
15/5/-
arranged.
4.
Service of Tugs. Committee considered and agreed
Mr. Moore's report as follows:-
(a) Dunkirk Operation.
Messrs. Watkins will make no charge for the use of their craft. Other tug owners ask for payment of one day's hire while towing barges etc. to Ramsgate or Dover and one day's hire for time spent returning to Gravesend, but they will make no charge for the time spent during actual operations.
(b) Other Evacuation Operations.
Coastal towage rates will apply for the whole period of employment, plus the two days in relative cases referred to in (a) above.
The rates are those already being paid by the
Department for other work by the same tugs.
It was agreed that the Committee should meet again at 10.30. a.m. on Wednesday, 10th July,
1940.
WRoban 10/7/40.

COMMITTEE TO DEAL WITH CLAIMS OF SMALL CRAFT EMPLOYED
IN THE DUNKIRK AND SUBSEQUENT EVACUATION
OPERATIONS.
Meeting held at 3.p.m. on MONDAY, 24th JUNE, 1940, at the
Ministry of Shipping, Room 8014.
PRESENT:- MR. ROBSON (CHAIRMAN) MR.SIMMONS (TREASURY)
MR. MOORE, MR. RIDDELL and MR. WAND.
AGREED to extend the work of the Committee to cover all evacuation operations where conditions of short term service apply.
AGREED to arrange in suitable cases for local payment by the Ministry of Agriculture and Fisheries through Port
Fishery Officers, or by Ministry of Shipping Representatives, of all sundry items of purchases.
AGREED to payment being made after necessary certification of clearly defined and straightforward cases without direct reference to the Committee; such payments to be scheduled and reported to the Committee at the meeting following payment.
AGREED that the Consultative Officer attending Survey shall, in suitable cases, endeavour to find a basis of settlement for cost of repairs which shall be submitted for the approval of the Committee.
AGREED that the Committee shall meet at 10.30.a.m. on each
WEDNESDAY, commencing JULY 3rd, 1940.
W.lobm 3/7/40.

DYNAMO OPERATION SAILING BARGES.
At a meeting with a deputation from the Motor and Sailing
Ship Association, the following proposals were made for settling claims in respect of sailing barges used in this operation:-
(1) Rate of Hire.
Vessels up to 100 tons dwt.
23 per day
Vessels over 200 and up to 150 tons dwt. 84
Vessels over 150 and up to 200 tons dwt. 65
Vessels over 200 and up to 250 tons dwt. £6
Vessels over 250 and up to 300 tons dut. 67
These are all nett rates, but have had to allow for the fact that, owing to the short period of use, owners were unable to claim any rebate for Marine Insurance. Further, owners will not claim any hire in cases where craft were taken up for one or two days and then released without being sent across-channel. The rates suggested are considered reasonable.
(2) Compensation for Total Loss.
The owners' representatives undertook to provide full information regarding insured values, etc. of the craft
(six or seven) which were lost. At a subsequent discussion with them, however, the suggestion was put forward that two Surveyors should be appointed to act indepently and give valuations as at time of loss. The names which have been suggested are Mr. F. Talbot, of with
Talbot Bros,, Mr. Sparkes, of W. N. Sparkes & Sons, and
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Mr. Howie, of Thompson, Lewis, Howie, Ltd.. The first two firms are Barge Repairers, Builders and Surveyors, while the third named are Surveyors, specialising in sailing barges. It is considered that this suggested method of procedure would be the most satisfactory to follow.
2nd July, 1940.

STATE
EMPLOYED
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DYNAMO OPERATION - SAILING BARGES.
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At a meeting with a deputation from the Motor and Sailing as
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States ship Association, the following proposals were made for settling
(s)
claims in respect of sailing barges used in this operation:-
(1) Rate of Hire.
Vessels up to 200 tons dwt.
03 per day
Vessels over 200 and as to 150 tons dwt. 24
Vessels over 150 and up to 200 tons dwk. 85
#
Vessels over 200 and up to 250 tone dwd. 16
Vessels over 250 and up to 300 tons card. 67
.
These are all nett rates, but have had to allow for the fact that, owing to the short period of use, owners WORK
unable to claim any rebate for Marino Insurance. Furth owners will not claim any hire in cases where craft were taken up for one or two days and then released without being sent across-channel. The rates suggested are considered reasonable.
(2) Compensation for Total LOSS.
The ownera' representatives undertook to provide information regarding insured values, etc. of th
(six or seven) which were lost. At a subsequent cussion with them, however, the suggestion was forward that two Surveyore should be appointed indepently and give valuations as at time of 10
names which have been suggested are Mr. F. Tall
Talbot Bros., Mr. Sparkes, of W. N. Sparkes &
Mr. Howie, of Thompson, Lewis, Howie, Ltd..
two firms are Barge Repairers, Builders while the third named are Surveyore, sailing barges. It is considered that satisf this method of procedure would be the follow.
2nd July,

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STATE
1989 / OF
COMMITTEE TO DEAL WITH CLAIMS OF SMALL CRAFT EMPLOYED
IN THE DUNKIRK- AND SUBSEQUENT EVACUATION
Staff of
OPERATIONS.
of
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DEPARTMENT
Meeting held at 3.p.m. on MONDAY, 24th JUNE, 1940, Ministry of
Shipping, Room 8014.
PRESENT:-
MR. ROBSON (CHAIRMAN) MR,SIMMONS (TREASURER)
MR. MOORE, MR. RIDDELL and MR. WAND.
AGREED to extend the work of the Committee to cover all evacuation operations where conditions of short term service apply.
AGREED to arrange in suitable cases for local payment by the Ministry of Agriculture and Fisheries through Port Fishery
Officers or by Ministry of Shipping Representatives, all sundry items of purchases.
AGREED to payment being made after necessary certification of clearly defined and straightforward cases without direct reference to the Committee; such payments to be scheduled and reported to the Committee at the meeting following payment.
AGREED that the Consultative Officer attending Survey shall, in suitable cases, endeavour to find a basis of settlement for cost of repairs which shall be submitted for the approval of the Committee.
AGREED that the Committee shall meet at 10.30.a.m. on each Tednesday, commencing JULY 3rd, 1940.

Group MT
Class 40
W Piece 36
2073
T.O. 9436
1940- 1947
Annexed to:-
MT 40/36

MINUTE SHEET.
Reference.
OPERATION DYNAMO - SMALL CRAFT.
A. CRAFT USED.
(i) Commercial Craft.
(a) Barges (self-propelled, sailing and dumb). About
120 of these were used including some diverted from existing Government service. All have been requisitioned by S.T.N.4.
(b) Tugs. Numbers are not yet available but all available tugs under requisition or employed on coastal towage work were diverted to the scheme. In addition all
London ship tugs were used and craft tugs were put on to the work normally carried out by the ship tugs.
(ii) Non-commercial Craft.
Mainly motor launches (including river launches), motor boats, barge yachts, etc. The majority of these craft were commandeered by officers sent out by D.S.V.P.
Arrangements were made for these officers and any other local Naval Authorities who took up craft to used provide complete lists of all they commandeered.
Pending receipt of these lists it is impossible to give our 300
accurate numbers but over a hundred craft were
4
X
requisitioned by S.T.N.6 and the total must run into some hundreds.
B. MANNING.
(i) Commercial craft.
Most of these had existing crews on board when taken up or crews were arranged by S.T.N.4.
(ii) Non-commercial Craft.
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Runners were engaged by the officer who took up the hould craft to work them from the places where they were lying to the assembly points and they were afterwards manned by Naval personnel or volunteers who were signed on, where possible, under a modified form of T. 124.
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of
In many instances however these volunteers were not signed on any form of agreement, but it is hoped that u be complete crew lists will be available in some form or another.
C. FINANCIAL QUESTIONS ARISING.
(i) In connection with Personnel.
(a) Payment to runners for delivering craft to assembly points. In many cases this payment has been made by the Owner of the vessel or by the Owners of the boatyard at which the craft were lying and claims will and be received from them in due course. In other cases
D.S.V.P's officers arranged for casual labour to take the craft down and agreed a remuneration. In these cases time arrangements have been made for payment to be effected by the Cashier, Ministry of Shipping after verification of the facts to
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(b) Payment of wages for commercial craft. For commercial
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MINUTE SHEET.
Reference normal crews or the Owners if of
Shipping craft payments either will through be arranged by the
(Mr. Headland will discuss are? - the it matter may be with necessary Treasury to include to see the men were engaged what a Treasury their reactions member on the Committee)
engaged paid in under accordance the modified T.124, men being if
Submitted.
usually signed it by or the not, Base and Accountant signing theime these used, made they
5th % June, 1940.
(c) Payments scheme or injury for for are all compensation being made for in orloss of effects orloss.or offects or off.
or not (see copy volunteers of the death.124
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D.D S.T.
in Charge etc. concerned). signal sent to all Naval T. 124
Merchant or commercial not, craft, whether In the case of crews Officers of
D.S.T.
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(ii) Claims in respect of Craft.
Navy War ordinary articles
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The following claims heads:- which are likely to arise fall under agree with
(a) Hire. unsuitable for any None long of period the craft - some specially in taken the used that the 6/6 claims should be be disposed no difficult cases no claim after will a day. be It is fact possible were returned up was as the THE THE THE to made a under in D.S.V.P's view this of head officers the that fact but in it are many that is
I agree possible (1) of (2) there Treasury. should who as on local view defence to their cheese of as paring. quickly as I have spoken be to dealt with by
(b) Claims The trip or for on Stores, board when either work. allocation former should the letter wills agree a who Committee. could that would act the as claims I represent nominate chairman. should AST. that mr. Department. Mr. The Robson, fourth Summonds my member I Deputy, presume of should property resident on board, that in been that in the will have considerable amounts Owner had a completely craft is dispersal understood of personal
Treasury moore will represent sysic.
(c) Claims the other for carried damage side sustained. out. No on-surveys points
Mr. be a technical offer. will an thore the the Committee setting will up of be
Perhaps you The Sere Kary of
(d) Claims are understood for and to be have more been All or less the lucky craft enough that to damaged. went were return over this selected by DST. myself.
Committee.
numbers on total the loss. It is seriously
Riss.
some that large to in the
6/6/40.
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Sir Inlian Infr afree 80 proceed to that has representatives submitted this could a been Executive, P.C.O. of, A.G. all say, (S.T.) claims and it being is
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I agree that this has been a useful piece of the work and thanks are due to the members of the Committee
Wholen and its Secretary.
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Junury craft. Damages and Losses.
In all 9 craft. are involved in this claim. Although the our craft an no notice aballo
Surveyor met the Owners and concluded a settlement in sum incurred were not the result of the Dunkirk operations, although of £321.18.-. it was later found that the damages and losses total cort is small.
of the craft had originally been inspected and considered for some that operation. They subsequently became involved in, firstly, are the members of the Chee, and the evacuation of Ramsgate Harbour, following Dunkirk and then in the bombing of the Port of London. It has been found necessary to look further into the history of these craft.
cretery, are the complimented.
that the Government is liable for the sum involved, either under by way
Investigations are not yet complete, but if it is considered of preparation for the Dunkirk service, or for treatment seeM
SMP
the War Damage Act, the case will go to the Treasury for special consideration. It will be very difficult to separate the incidence of liability.
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Junury craft. Damages and Losses.
In all 9 craft are involved in this claim. Although our
Surveyor met the Owners and concluded a settlement in the sum of £321.18.. it was later found that the damages and losses incurred were not the result of the Dunkirk operations, although some of the craft had originally been inspected and considered for that operation. They subsequently became involved in, firstly, the evacuation of Ramsgate Harbour, following Dunkirk and then in the bombing of the Port of London. It has been found necessary to look further into the history of these craft.
Investigations are not yet complete, but if it is considered that the Government is liable for the sum involved, either by way of preparation for the Dunkirk service, or for treatment under the War Damage Act, the case will go to the Treasury for special consideration. It will be very difficult to separate the
(1502) 28899/1063
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DUNKIRK CLAIMS COMMITTEE.
Reference.
MINUTE SHEET.
I will deal with the cases other than the Liner Companies in the first place:-
"EMPRESS"
Total
Losses.
were opened.
"QUEEN Before were The the Department a the against The claim OF Solicitors claims Owners received, original ENGLAND") the a of claim properly Estate was have £2,250. prepared dealing Owner the been of could and claims £1,750. formulated offered died for with be to were soon meet. the to settled the for The go found after for "Queen Estate offers to the some on The and negotiations to "Impress" of the position were now we be time, England" widow, are higher made not but awaiting £1,300. able today are she £1,230. than when the to died. is, against the they the have highest that the
Department is prepared
Solicitor's reply.
"NEMO
Owned IV". the by Total boat two men Loss. and who for claim loss of £4,500. earnings has as compensation until offered they the are highest for able the to loss figure replace of that the it boat. is prepared The Department to pay for the loss of the boat, i.e.
£1,028. been a very troublesome Owners' case Member and has of recently Parliament been to the the This subject has of a letter from who has the replied maintaining rests. the Department's Parliamentary attitude. Secretary, There for the moment the position
"NEW
WHITE HEATHER". claim Total from Loss. the Owners was £3,000. figure They have the since
Department said they would could settle go to is for £1,325. and we are awaiting a reply to
The original £2,000. The highest this offer.
"QUEEN
requires branch are doing what they can to find after a all have
The Owner replacement of the engine which was suitable Our
BOADICEA". will Damaged. not accept settlement on a cash destroyed. basis and
Technical but if this is not possible, we may Loss. to engine, treat the case as one of Constructive Total
"WHITE
WATER.". at Damaged. late date, would not accept the estimate of and the cost of of the Boat Yard where the vessel now of
The Owner, repairs a which had been agreed between our Surveyor lies.
the The proprietor case has been reconsidered and there is prospect a very early sèttlement.
INGLIS & MILLS. Sundry craft. Damages and Losses.
all 9 craft are involved in this claim. Although the our
Surveyor In met the Owners and concluded a settlement in losses sum of £321.18.-. it was later found that the damages and incurred were not the result of the Dunkirk operations, although of the craft had originally been inspected and considered for some that operation. They subsequently became involved in, firstly, the evacuation of Ramsgate Harbour, following Dunkirk and then in the bombing of the Port of London. It has been found necessary to look further into the history of these craft.
Investigations are not yet complete, but if it is considered that the Government is liable for the sum involved, either by way of preparation for the Dunkirk service, or for treatment under the War Damage Act, the case will go to the Treasury for special consideration. It will be very difficult to separate the
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Reference. T0.9436
FEBOATS.
MINUTE SHEET.
claims Total Losses. One from we have clue Star Liners. 4 Blue Star Liners: Eleven and this Committee was dissolved still the the tutstandia directivective instructions
Dunkirk Claims Committee.
were reto have the tion continue Cashier When done, to this and with in up London cases till for that now while have were I was the but even it is now right that no on still I the of should the on the staff of the with those members be made, come continue to me to for or not actual payment payments can to be in Owners. The
Committee This but dealt I think with still by the the would available, time Accountant has obviate come General's any for risk the of Department duplicate at payment. Blackpool.
to mission position have with the touch been un to to assist but in up till up order procedure Will you be good enough to advise me, please.
of
26/3/42.
the
Mr. Goldsmid.
balond
Concur. will 1 please inform A.G. Blackpool
2 MAR 1942
to the Dunkirk retary Claims Committee.
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Blackpool 15.1.43
Dunkirk June 100L The on which May was 27th, the 1940,. official and was name concluded for the on
Transport Instructions Officers, had and been in given to local Naval Officers and Sea
Officers, might be used to search either their local some cases ports the for Fisheries any small Department as Tenders'on the English to go coast on to the shore at Dunkirk craft or to that serve the there quite operation. was sure just of time The in local the men excitement were for the given to larger a very ships free engaged hand, but on matter for addresses of the Owners. This, of took, and of the names and the names of the craft that instruct they them to make the Admiralty. our Executive side working in close course, co-operation was all with a
Department allowed to pay the piper, and we quickly realised the Finance if we
The operation concluded, it was the task of lengthy normal procedure to operate it might become that was due. and involved task to pay compensation to a very whom it immediately The matter was therefore put to the those to
Committee method would be to create a small and most straightforward agreed to the suggestion that the simplest Treasury, who would be to consider the whole affair. All Treasury Departmental difficulties representative from the Treasury.
overcome by the inclusion on that Committee of a to in the days following Dunkirk at two points on the French place
There were two other evacuation operations which took the west of Dunkirk, which were given the official coast
Operations Cycle and Aerial. The Departmental Committee names dealt of with less these concurrently with the Dynamo Operation. They is known, operations, and certainly much less dramatic, but were it of the cráft employed on the 3 operations.
well to of them as it was not possible to separate the names the Committee dealh with some involved in the three operations.
Altogether there wore 1,170 small craft of all descriptions
As a first step, on the 12th June 1940 a circular letter sent to all owners involved, advising them to forward any clas
House. The claims as receivèd were checked against reports then Was to the Ministry of Shipping, Berkeley Square coming in from the various ports, and were dealt with speedily and generally on broad lines. It will be appreciated that owing to the urgency of the operation there was no time to on-survey the craft, and there was no certainty as to their condition when taken over or to what stores and equipment might have been on board; and the Committee had to judge the claims for damage or missing equipment mostly on circumstantial evidence. Generall speaking the claimants acted in the manner one would expect of loyal citizens, and it was rare that an excessive or doubtful claim was made.
The claims received fell roughly into 3 major classes:-
(1) Hire and expenses. (2) Repairs and replacements.
(3) Compensation for Total Loss.
So far as expenses other than total loss were concerned procedure of the Committee was to authorise the Secretary to with clearly defined and straightforward cases in consultati with technical or other competent officers of the Department payments being scheduled and reported to the Committee for approval. It was also arranged, in the hope of avoiding the settlement of claims from fishermen whose boats were of prepare and stand by for the subsequent operations Cycle 8
that the Fishery Officers of the Ministry of Agriculture
8
Fisheries should be authorised to settle them on behalf of

COPY.
June, 1941.
The Secretary,
Ministry of War Transport, this arrange
Sir,
The Committee appointed by authority of your minute of the tostantialth corres-11
of
7th "Dynamo", has now finished its work, subject to the exceptions
June, 1940, to deal with claims arising out of the Operation mentioned at the close of this report.
Committee has met on nineteen occasions, and, with the in for receipt the of a
July throughout. The Committee also appended claims exception on the latter's departure for Blackpool, has dealt with
The that Mr. G.J. Allen succeeded Mr. W. Robson retained as Chairman its those to cases apply original from membership operations "Cycle" and "Aerial". The statement and the hire was arising shows the number and character of the cases dealt with, period service expenditure authorised.
The claims received fell roughly into three major classes:-
1. Hire and expenses.
lost longshoremen
2. Repairs and Replacement.
was
Found made
3. Compensation for Total Loss.
compensation arrange as expenses other than total loss were concerned, to deal with the for and was procedure clearly defined So of far the and Committee competent straightforward was officers to authorise cases, of the in the Department, consultation Secretary payments with approval. made some
150
being technical scheduled or other and reported Committee's to the Committee agenda for being covering crowded by he to masses be met expeditiously. It was also arranged, nature from of
This procedure of items prevented on which no the question of principle arose in and the enabled hope total avoiding claims to delay in boats the were settlement ordered of to claims prepare of the and the stand Fishery by for the only to fishermen whose "Cycle" and "Aerial", that authorised Officers to
Taunches, subsequent Ministry operations of Agriculture and Fisheries should the experiment be was and of the of the Department. But part not of traffic settle them on as behalf was hoped, owing to some reluctance, without specific on the
They do were authority; the operation. officers and In the it was end, some however, time of before it correspondence, worked the well scheme and by came enabled officers claims full who were to so successful concerned, to deal with claims into etc.
which be the considered best position with the to minimum deal with cases evidence. where decision often depended in on circumstantial rather than direct dealt with by the Committee direct, it was generally possible In cases to obtain of evidence dealing of with payment claims in was the comparatively case of wages and stores and regards the process the loss of equipment, however, it was a their fairly general of everything portable, what was owing on simple. experience As that while vessels were there re-delivered was no evidence, to board to the in the first instance. of such The Committee a nature as had to to justify the advice assumption of the owners conditions stripped under which they were taken up, as decide to whether articles claimed would probably for were have been on board, and, with offer. the The that technical they felt officers, bound to in arrive most cases at a reasonable to give to the sum to claimant desirable the benefit
Committee what was aboard. This was particularly had been since, of the doubt owing as to the to omission of an on-survey, the claimants relieved of their onus of proof.
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A rather similar position arose in the matter of repairs.
There was usually no evidence of the condition of the vessel at the time it was taken up, and the Committee had to rely on the advice of the Technical Officers as to the probability of damage having arisen during the operation and to settle the claims on broad lines.
Considerable difficulty arose concerning hire, owing to the unsuitability of the rates, framed by the Ministry for long term chartering, to meet the circumstances of the use of a vessel for a very short period where the owner had no opportunity to cancel his insurance or to modify his overhead expenses. The matter was complicated in many cases by the owners of fishing, or other commercial craft, desiring to include compensation for loss of earnings while the boats were out of their hands. The Committee decided that it had no power to meet claims for loss of earnings which, in any case, would have been almost impossible of assessment, and it proceeded on the lines of payment of hire which, though having regard to the normal rates fixed by the Ministry, was increased to cover the special circumstances of a short period of service. In the case of ordinary in-shore fishing vessels, however, it was found possible, after consultation with the Ministry of Agriculture's Fishery
Officers, to adopt a standard rate of 6d a day per foot of length. Even so hire formed a very small proportion of the compensation payable.
In regard to certain types of vessels where there were trade associations available with which to negotiate, it was possible to arrange terms generally applicable to a class of vessel. For instance, the owners of sailing barges agreed to make no claim where their vessels were taken up for one or two days and then released without crossing the Channel, while a scale of hire based on tonnage was agreed for those barges which actually took part in the evacuation. Tug-owners met the Committee generously. One firm made no charge whatever for the use of its tugs for the Dunkirk operation, while the others accepted one day's hire for towing barges to or from the assembly base, but made no charge for the time spent on the actual
Dunkirk operation itself. For other evacuation operations normal coastal towage rates were applied.
Claims for compensation for the loss of craft at times presented some difficulty. Mostof the vessels lost were the property on of single-boat owners, often fishermen of longshoremen, depending that the the strict application of the terms of the Compensation (Defence) obtain was vessel for their livelihood. In such cases it was felt Act undesirable. In the first place it was difficult to any independent evidence of value, and in the second it was difficult of for
Committee to shut théir eyes to the fact that the question loss the replacement was all-important in the view of the owner of whose deprived asked that they might receive, instead of money compensation, when him of the tools of his trade. In a number cases fishermen similar to that which they had lost. But it was found, a boat were made to meet their wishes, that, as in remained other regions of human unappreciated in life. The attempt to provide replacement failed, attempts experience, death revealed beauties that had and the aid of local officers, it was in many cases services found of Mr.
the Committee had to adhere to the system of monetary compensation. possible to
With at agreements for fishing boats, and the for arrive the Ministry's valuer for yachts, were utilised of valuers various
Barnett, of pleasure craft. In the case of barges, a panel valuation types in agreement with the industry, and their valuers were was was set up, For special types of craft other suitable accepted. and, with the exception of the small to number arrive ofoutstanding at just and employed, referred to below, it has been possible cases amicable settlements with the respective owners.
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In a considerable number of instances no claim has been made by owners, who have felt proud that their vessels, and, in some cases, their services, were privileged to be used at Dunkirk. In other cases, owners have been content to accept the cost of essential repairs, or compensation for lost equipment.
As mentioned above, there are now outstanding a small number claims for compensation for the loss of vessels, mainly of a of commercial character; but it is considered that, where the Secretary is negotiations should be completed by the Committee for Compensation Wurtzburg, unable to complete on the lines already laid down by this Committee, the Total Loss, now sitting under the Chairmanship of Mr. C.E.
for addition there are a few miscellaneous claims outstanding consulting for repairs
In etc, which the Secretary has been instructed to deal with, the members of the Committee informally where necessary.
conclusion, the Committee desire to place on record W.A. their appreciation In of the zeal and ability shown by its Secretary Mr.
Wand.
We have the honour to be,
Sir,
Your obedient Servants,
(Sgd) G.J. ALLEN.
A.L. MOORE.
E.B. SIMMONS.
C.S. RIDDELL.
BR.

F.S.R.1210.
Reference to 9436
S one of the Lifeboats
Received from mr st, has now been found in wand of the Muistry of 21ˢᵗ
sel, the cost of the en refunded by the was Transport, on ommittee.
Nov 1945.
to he returned hand " Lit 16.12.43.
TOTAL
to 24 mr is wand by "safe
£
2,350.9.5
8.1.10
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tioned -41 small some have -ims OW includes 50 lifeboats.
of payments used the Evacuation
Ltd. the Netherland Shipping &

Reference F.S.R.1210.
Dutch Lifeboats.
Will you please note that as one of the Lifeboats ex "EDAM", which was presumed lost, has now been found in the service of another Dutch Vessel, the cost of the
Lifeboat - viz. $1,089.55 has been refunded by the
Netherland Shipping and Trading Committee.
Lit Holds.
16.12.43.
Mr. ml W. A. Wand.
2,35
Room 028.
JYM
(1405) Wt14698/963
2,000,000 5/39 JC&SLid.
Gp644/230
(REGIMITE)
MOr of have for craft.
includes tioned 50 an dealt small stained with reports for under permanent normal included some
Trading Committes Trading Committes Committee Committee Ltd. the Netherland payments lifeboats. Shipping the Evacuation
&

as: " TRANSPORTS, WESDO, LONDON."
one: ABBEY 7711.
MINISTRY OF SHIPPING, further communication to 1. on this subject y should be addressed
BERKELEY SQUARE HOUSE,
The Director of Sea Transport,
(address as opposite)
BERKELEY SQUARE,
LONDON, W.1.
and the following number quoted:-
Ministry NOTICE of Shipping has now made arrangements Owners to
The claims for expenses and losses sustained by Dunkirk.
deal of vessels with used in the evacuation of personnel from retained the vessels which were used are being separately.
on Government Some of service and these will be dealt with be for a
TO
Claims amount in of compensation and should show should in be detail respect of other vessels should
3
reasonable expense was incurred. They
2,350.9.5
how the loss or evidence or vouchers which may be 1940 available to:-
supported and should by be any forwarded not later than 30th June
8.1.10
Mr. W.A. Wand,
Room 8015,
Ministry of Shipping,
Berkeley Square House,
London, W.1.
12th June, 1940.
(2)
209. 9.
C-aims for now small retained with craftunder reports permanent included some
Trading Committes Trading Committee Ltd. the Netherland payments Shipping the have of Committee and used lifeboats. Evacuation normal
&

DUNKIRK EVACUATION
CLAIMS OUTSTANDING:- "TOTAL LOSS"
AS AT 10-10-41
Name of
File No.
Claim.
Remarks & Action
Vessel.
Taken.
8
EMPRESS
Negotiations continuing and
QUEEN OF
mm
T.M. 3716/40
£2,250
}
awaiting letters of
ENGLAND
£1,750
administration.
NEMO IV
T.M. 3889/40
£4,500
Offered £1,028 less £250
already advanced on account.
Case may go to Tribunal.
NEW WHITE
$3,000
Offer of £1,325 made,
HEATHER
T.M. 3899/40
awaiting reply.
Lifeboats
FURNESS WITHY
T.M. 7508/40
£459.3.4d.
& CO. LTD.
Total Loss (3)
Under consideration.
& Equipment
Doubt as to whether these
W.D. INGLIS
T.M. 5094/40
£321.18.-d.
were used for Dunkirk
& S.J. MILLS
evacuation.
BLUE STAR LINE
.12534/40
£1454.15.-(9)
Obtaining more details.
CLAIMS OUTSTANDING OTHER THAN "TOTAL LOSS"
9:
AS AT 10-10-41
QUEEN BOADICEA
T.M. 3718/40
Repairs
Offer refused. Requires replacement of engine.
Negotiations continuing.
WHITEWATER
T.O. 9364/40
Repairs
L.A. Robinson's estimate of cost of repairs not accepted by owner. Negotiations continuing.
BLUE STAR LINE
M.12534/40
£1665.5.
Obtaining further details.
LTD.
Repairs equipment and labour expenses.
"S
"Si,
Lifeboats.
Involved with Netherlands Commission from whom we have not
This the been able to get a clear statement.
followed up. Mt.

DUNKIRK CLAIMS COMMITTEE
Payments made since presentation of Report on 21st July 1941.
Repairs and
Total Loss
Vessel.
Type
Claimant
Paper No.
Hire and
Replacements
Remarks.
Expenses
£. s. d.
£. S. d.
£ S. d.
"LARK"
S/Barge
Dover Harbour Board
O. 9315/40.
8. 5.
"BARBARA JEAN"
T.O.9296/40.
18. 7.
"ROYALTY"
T.O.9298/40.
13. 4.
14.
"PANDORA"
Punt
A. Read
T.M. 5152/41.
30.
"KATHLEEN"
17' Boat
C. Morris
4918/41.
266.
-.
"FOLKESTONE
M/V
Spraggs Bros.
9201/40.
110.
BELLE"
(c/o Adams)
99. 17. -.
"BLUEBIRD"
M.L.
Mrs. G. Ragless
T.M. 4136/40
20. -.
"OLIVE MAY"
M/Barge
Samuel West Ltd.,
T.0.8532/40
30.
"LADY ROSEBERY"
AS/barge
=
T.0.9306/40
20. -.
"GLENWAY"
100. -.
65.
"RIVER TOY"
M/B.
C.H.Elkington
T.M. 2766/41
"ALPHEUS"
M/Barge
S. Instone & Co.,
T.0,9104/40
90. -: i,
"SHERFIELD"
J.J.Prior (Transport)
Limited
T.0.9423/40
66. -.
Dover Harbour Board
"
9. 1.
"SHAWFORD"
Prior (Trans) Ltd.
11
30. -. i,
"CAROLINE"
Row Boat
H.E. Parker
5206/41
28. -.
"SHRIMP"
Skiff
"
"
3. 17. -.
"FERROCRETE"
M/Barge
Assoc.Portland Cement
Manufacturers Ltd.,
T.0.7976/40
50.
ex "HIGHLAND
28'
Royal Mail Lines
T.M.6352/40
PRINCESS"
Lifeboat
Limited
236. 5. ".
"NEW PRINCE OF
Southend Motor Nav:
Balance of "Total Loss"
WALES"
P.M.B.
Company Limited
T.M. 3887/40
:! 120.
:: 1236.
Compensation.
"SHAMROCK"
P.M.B.
A. Barrell c/o
T.M.3898/40
!: 415.
Balance of "Total Loss"
W.G. & S. Beecroft
Compensation
"BONITA"
M/V
S.W. Newton c/o
T.M.2779/41
30. --
50. -.
Wannop & Falconer ex "GLOUCESTER
13
Union Castle Mail
T.M.9092/40
96. 7. -.
Lifeboat No.12
CASTLE"
Lifeboats
S.S. Co. Ltd.,
315. 8. 4.
7 Lifeboats
234. 14. -.
Fitting out 6 Lifeboats which replaced missing ones.
"SKYLARK III"
M/V
Mrs. M. Corsan
T. 0.9203/40
487. i.
"QUEEN OF
M/V
Bowmaker Ltd.,
T.M.3716/40
700.
i
Advance on account
ENGLAND"
"EMPRESS"
M/V
=
"
"
300.
!
Advance on account
"KNOWLES"
Aux.
London & Rochester
T.O.7764/40.
8. 6.11.
S/Barge
Trading Co.Ltd.,
"THYRA"
Aux
London & Rochester
S/Barge
Trading Co. Ltd.,
"
14. 9. 3.
"PUDGE"
Aux.
London & Rochester
S/Barge
Trading Co. Ltd.,
21. 8. 6.
London & Rochester
Trading Co. Ltd.,
75. -- -:
Dover Harbour Board
10. 11.
"CABBY"
London & Rochester
Trading Co. Ltd.,
"SCONE"
14. 3,
London & Rochester
Trading Co. Ltd.,
"SEINE"
M/Barge
38.10. 8,
London & Rochester
T.O.8949/40.
66. 8. 1.
Trading Cox Ltd.,
C/f
£ 893.18. -
£1,145. 3. 4.
£3,432. 5. -

DUNKIRK CLAIMS COMMITTEE.
PAYMENTS AUTHORISED.
19.7.41.
HIRE &
REPAIRS &
TOTAL
NO.OF
EXPENSES
REPLACEMENTS
LOSS
VESSELS
TOTAL
INVOLVED
£. S. d.
£. S. d.
£. S. d.
£. S. d.
PAYMENTS MADE AT
20,307.18. 3.
15,028.4.6.
796
35,336. 2. 9.
HEAD QUARTERS
DETAILED ON THE
ATTACHED LISTS
78,971.18. 4.
104
78,971.18. 4.
PAYMENTS MADE
LOCALLY BY
6,829.17. 6.
389
6,829.17. 6.
OFFICERS OF THE
MINISTRY OF
AGRICULTURE AND
FISHERIES
TOTALS
27,137.15. 9.
15,028. 4. 6.
78,971.18. 4.
1289
121,137.18. 7.

JR/Ris
DUNKIRK EVACUATION.
Claims Outstanding (other than TOTAL LOSS).
Name of
File No.
Claim.
Remarks & Action vessel.
taken.
BLUEBIRD
T.M. 4136/40
£99.17.0d
Awaiting T.619
+ Hire
EILEEN
T.M. 8435/40
Hire £3
Awaiting report of local payments.
FERRY KING
T.M. 8438/40
Hire
Awaiting claim &
T.619.
FOLKESTONE
BELLE
T.0.9201/40
Repairs &
Offer made.
Compensation for lost engine.
QUEEN
BOADICEA.
T.M.3718/40
Repairs.
Awaiting reply to offer.
RAUMA
T.M.5438/40
Repairs.
Awaiting claim.
TRUE BELLE
T.M.8436/40
Hire.
Awaiting report of local payments.
WHITEWATER.
T.0.9364/40
Repairs.
L.A. Robinson's estimate of cost of repairs not accepted by owner.
MOTOR BARGES.
FERROCRETE.
T.O.7976/40)
MOLLOU
T.0.9424/40)
Awaiting rate of hire
MOUNT
T.0.9125/40)
Hire for M. Barges to be
OLIVE MAY
T.0.8532/40)
agreed with owners.
PUDGE
T.O.7764/40)
SHERFIELD
SHAWFORD
T.O.9423/40.
LIFEBOATS.
Involved with Netherlands Commission from whom we have not been able to get a clear statement.

JR/KW.
DUNKIRK EVACUATION.
TOTAL LOSS:- CLAIMS OUTSTANDING.
56
Name of
File No.
Claim.
Remarks & Action
Vessel.
Taken.
BLACK ARROW
T.M. 4060/40
£700 - £900
Valuation being obtained.
FAITH
T.M. 4070/40
Loss uncertain-letters to owner - no reply.
EMPRESS
QUEEN OF
m
T.M. 3716/40
Awaiting letters of
ENGLAND
administration.
NEMO IV
T.M.3889/40
£4,500
Advanced £250-offer made. awaiting reply.
NEW PRINCE
OF WALES.
T.M.3887/40
£8,696
Advanced £5,000
negotiations, continuing.
NEW WHITE HEATHER
T.M. 3889/40
Offer of £1,325 made, awaiting reply.
SKYLARK III
T.O. 9203/40
£500
Awaiting letters of administration.
LIFEBOATS.
ROYAL MAIL
LINES.
T.M. 5352/40
£236.5.0d.
Awaiting surveyor's report.
FURNESS WITHY
& CO LTD.
T.M. 7508/40
£459. 3. 4d.
Awaiting surveyor's
Total Loss (3)
report.
& Equipment.

TRE
/
July, 1941.
Your Reference
Julian, Pulch committee. 9/7/41
2nd
Treasury Reference 45924 01
Dear sir the 27th,
Thank you Dynamo very Etc. much for letter of I
June 1941.
and prompt wiven to should and any the the rapid I which really dealt he work with Yours as
Sinistry Julian of Foley, war Cronsport, are to be complimented on their good work.
Yours sincerely,
G.J. Allen, Esq., I.S.O., Road, M.B.E.
Loors, EDG.
76 Corringham
N.W.11.
Rc
E1
be it the some al with before the scheme came into full operation. In the end, however, it worked well and enabled claims to be considered with the minimu of correspondence, by officers who were in the best position to deal with cases where decision often depended on circumstantial rather than direct evidence.
In cases dealt with by the Committee direct, it was generally possible to obtain evidence of payment in the case of wages and stores and the process of dealing with claims war comparatively simple. AS regards the loss of equipment, howev
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MINISTRY OF WAR TRANSPORT
27th June, 1941.
5.0.9436. Dear Mr. I Allen, have set seen out to the settle report claims of the arising work of piece out the of
Committee This was a very good
Operation of minimum work efficiently of Dynamo. fuss. I and think Secret quickly that ry the done are members with to be the of
Committee and the work.
the complimented on their good
Yours sincerely,
G.J. I.S.O., Road, M.B.E.
Rc
E
De it the some al with before the well and enabled claims to be considered with minimu scheme came into full operation. In the end, however, the it of worked correspondence, by officers who were in the best position to deal with cases where decision often depended on circumstantial rather than direct evidence.
cases dealt with by the Committee direct, it was generally In possible to obtain evidence of payment in claims the case comparatively simple. AB regards the loss of equipment, of wages and stores and the process of dealing with howev was
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MINISTRY OF WAR TRANSPORT
27th June, 1941.
0.9436.
Dear Mr.
Moore, seen the report of the work of out the of
Committee Operation I have efficiently set Dynamo. out to This settle and quickly was claims a very done the arising good members with piece the of of work of fuss. I think that to be minimum Committee and the Secretary are the complimented on their good work.
Yours sincerely, good
A.L. Moore, Esq.
Rc
E
be it the some al with before the scheme came into full operation. In the end, however, it worked well and enabled claims to be considered with the minimu of correspondence, by officers who were in the best position to deal with cases where decision often depended on circumstantial rather than direct evidence.
In cases dealt with by the Committee direct, it was of wages and stores and the process of dealing with howev was generally possible to obtain evidence of payment in claims the case comparatively simple. As regards the loss of equipment,
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MINISTRY OF WAR TRANSPORT
27th June, 1941.
1.
ear Mr. Riddell, seen the report of the work of
I have set out to settle claims arising good piece out of of
Committee Operation work efficiently of Dynamo. fuss. and This I quickly think was that a done very the with members to the be of te he e
sinimum Committee and the Secretary work. are the complimented on their good e
Yours sincerely, er
C.S. Riddell, Sea Transport Esq. Department, ac
E:
be it the some al with before worked the well and enabled claims to be considered with minimu scheme came into full operation. In the end, however, the it of correspondence, by officers who were in the best position to deal with cases where decision often depended on circumstantial rather than direct evidence.
In cases dealt with by the Committee direct, it was generally possible to obtain evidence of payment in claims the case of and stores and the process of dealing with howev was comparatively wages simple. A6 regards the loss of equipment,
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MINISTRY OF WAR TRANSPORT
27th June, 1941.
9436.
1.
ear Simmons, seen the report of the work of out the
I have set out to settle claims arising good piece of
Committee Dynamo. This was a very with the
Operation efficiently and quickly done members of he of work of fuss. I think that the to be the minimum the Committee and the Secretary are complimented on their good work.
Yours sincerely, e
ter
E.B. Simmons, ESQ.,
Treasury tehall, S.W.1.
ea at
E1
Baid be it the some al with before the well and enabled claims to be considered with minimu scheme came into full operation. In the end, however, the it worked of correspondence, by officers who were in the best position to deal with cases where decision often depended on circumstantial rather than direct evidence.
In cases dealt with by the Committee direct, it was generally possible to obtain evidence of payment in claims the case of wages and stores and the process of dealing with howev was comparatively simple. AS regards the loss of equipment,
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MINISTRY OF WAR TRANSPORT
36.
27th June, 1941.
r. Wand,
1941.
I have seen the report of the work of the mittee set out to settle claims arising out of
Operation Dynamo. This was a very good piece of work efficiently and quickly done with the minute f the minimum of fuss. I think that the members of O
the the Committee and the Secretary are to be nd, complimented on their good work.
Blackpool,
Committee nd
Yours sincerely, haracter the except and jor land, Esq.
concerned
Secretary i. Department.
in of the
0
the ed the
Rc hich met
E'
iding shermen ery ould be at the some al with before the scheme came into full operation. In the end, however, it worked well and enabled claims to be considered with the minimu of correspondence, by officers who were in the best position to deal with cases where decision often depended on circumstantial rather than direct evidence.
In cases dealt with by the Committee direct, it was of wages and stores and the process of dealing with claims was generally possible to obtain evidence of payment in the case comparatively simple. As regards the loss of equipment, howev
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10 June, 1941.
The Secretary,
Ministry of War Transport.
Sir,
The Committee appointed by authority of your minute of the 7th June, 1940, to deal with claims arising out of the
Operation "Dynamo", has now finished its work, subject to the exceptions mentioned at the close of this report.
The Committee has met on nineteen occasions, and, with the exception that Mr. G.J. Allen succeeded Mr. W. Robson as Chairman in July on the latter's departure for Blackpool,
Juny every has retained its original membership throughout. The Committee also dealt with claims arising from operations "Cycle" and
"Aerial". The statement appended shows the number and character of the cases dealt with, and the expenditure authorised.
The claims received fell roughly into three major classes:-
1. Hire and expenses
2. Repairs and Replacement
3. Compensation for Total Loss.
So far as expenses other than total loss were concerned the procedure of the Committee was to authorise the Secretary to deal with clearly defined and straightforward cases, in consultation with technical or other competent officers of the
Department, payments made being scheduled and reported to the
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Committee for covering approval. This procedure prevented the
Committee's agenda being crowded by masses of items on which no question of principle arose and enabled claims to be met expeditiously. It was also arranged, in the hope of avoiding delay in the settlement of claims of this nature from fishermen whose boats were ordered to prepare and stand by for the
Officers of the Ministry of Agriculture and Fisheries should be subsequent operations "Cycle" and "Aerial", that the Fishery authorised to settle them on behalf of the Department. But the experiment was not so successful as was hoped, owing to some reluctance, on the part of the officers concerned, to deal with claims without specific authority; and it was some time before the scheme came into full operation. In the end, however, it worked well and enabled claims to be considered with the minimu of correspondence, by officers who were in the best position to deal with cases where decision often depended on circumstantial rather than direct evidence.
In cases dealt with by the Committee direct, it was generally possible to obtain evidence of payment in the case of wages and stores and the process of dealing with claims was comparatively simple. AB regards the loss of equipment, howev
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Fu under miscellaneous instructed necessary. on record thembers of the are the a few Committee informally where to place their appreciation In conclusion, the the zeal and ability shown by its Secretary will
MR. W. A. Wand.
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We have the honour to be,
Sir,
Your obedient Servants,
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